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Old April 29 2013, 08:41 PM   #31
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Re: (Possible Spolier) Clip#3 'I Allow It': Kirk and Harrison.

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Cumberbatch makes Pine look like a high school drama club washout.
I didn't think so. I thought Pine was rather good in that clip. I think he is a fine actor. I think he is holing his own against Cumberbatch
I thought Pine looked constipated in the scene and this is from someone who liked his portrayal of Kirk in Star Trek 2009.
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Old April 29 2013, 08:48 PM   #32
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I suppose technically....

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Old April 29 2013, 08:55 PM   #33
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If Kirk doesn't follow up Harrison's last remark of the clip with, "What seventy-two reasons are on my ship?" I'll throw popcorn at the screen.
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Old April 29 2013, 09:12 PM   #34
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I suppose technically....

Nope, the number he stated was correct.
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Old April 29 2013, 09:13 PM   #35
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Re: (Possible Spolier) Clip#3 'I Allow It': Kirk and Harrison.

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Cumberbatch makes Pine look like a high school drama club washout.
I didn't think so. I thought Pine was rather good in that clip. I think he is a fine actor. I think he is holing his own against Cumberbatch
I thought Pine looked constipated in the scene and this is from someone who liked his portrayal of Kirk in Star Trek 2009.
He does look awkward, but just close enough to genuine, seething rage to make the scene work. Cumberbatch owns it though, he's going to be reason enough to see this movie.
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Old April 29 2013, 09:14 PM   #36
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Re: (Possible Spolier) Clip#3 'I Allow It': Kirk and Harrison.

Brilliant clip, the best one yet. I love the contrast between Kirk's righteous rage and Harrison's cold serenity. Both actors did a terrific job in this.
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Old April 29 2013, 10:29 PM   #37
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Old April 30 2013, 01:00 AM   #38
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Taking the 'setup' material from the IDW comic, the new video game and Countdown to Darkness into account, I've (got no spoilers, I'm just guessing) got the terrible feeling that the 72 'reasons' Harrison is referring to is 72 double agents. 72 members of Section 31 among the Enterprise crew, or whatever the outfit is called that Harrison belonged to.

And even worse? One of those 72 is sitting at the Enterprise's helm.
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Old April 30 2013, 01:13 AM   #39
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Re: (Possible Spolier) Clip#3 'I Allow It': Kirk and Harrison.

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Taking the 'setup' material from the IDW comic, the new video game and Countdown to Darkness into account, I've (got no spoilers, I'm just guessing) got the terrible feeling that the 72 'reasons' Harrison is referring to is 72 double agents. 72 members of Section 31 among the Enterprise crew, or whatever the outfit is called that Harrison belonged to.

And even worse? One of those 72 is sitting at the Enterprise's helm.
Nope.
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And even worse? One of those 72 is sitting at the Enterprise's helm.
Where did this idea that Sulu is a double-agent come from? I've seen other people floating it too.
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Old April 30 2013, 01:15 AM   #41
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And even worse? One of those 72 is sitting at the Enterprise's helm.
Where did this idea that Sulu is a double-agent come from? I've seen other people floating it too.
IDW The Return of the Archons re-imagining.
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Old April 30 2013, 01:38 AM   #42
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Re: (Possible Spolier) Clip#3 'I Allow It': Kirk and Harrison.

Nightowl1701 wrote: View Post
Taking the 'setup' material from the IDW comic, the new video game and Countdown to Darkness into account, I've (got no spoilers, I'm just guessing) got the terrible feeling that the 72 'reasons' Harrison is referring to is 72 double agents. 72 members of Section 31 among the Enterprise crew, or whatever the outfit is called that Harrison belonged to.

And even worse? One of those 72 is sitting at the Enterprise's helm.


Um, no. Not even close.
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Old April 30 2013, 02:34 AM   #43
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Whew. Thank goodness for that.

So far, I've managed to avoid the spoilers. For once ignorance really is bliss.
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Old April 30 2013, 03:00 AM   #44
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Re: (Possible Spoiler) Clip#3 'I Allow It': Kirk and Harrison.

Is it just me or does Cumberbatch sound a bit like a "pissed off Picard", with his vocal tone?
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Old April 30 2013, 03:18 AM   #45
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Watching this clip, I felt Pine's seething rage towards Cumberbatch. It jumped off the screen at me..his tone actually caught my attention as I was not looking at the screen when he confronted Harrison.

I have seen Pine in other roles/movies and must say I have never seen him do the seething rage thing before.

For me the scene worked. Everyone has different tastes, which is fine, but the comment on his being crossed eyed is a low blow. He is not perfect..has flaws just like everyone else and honestly I just think it is a bit on the rude side to mention his or anyone else's perceived physical flaws.

Star Trek is about acceptance of all...no matter their appearance. When I come on here to read through the comments posted about the various topics on the board with regards to the new movie (or anything Trek for that matter), I don't expect to see one or two sentence posts criticizing Pine's or anyone else's physical appearance .
Before Before you say it, I'm not being overly sensitive, but I do find it somewhat ironic that there are many people that come on here to rant and rave over how J.J. Abrams ruined Trek, yet they say nothing when one of Trek's main messages is trampled.

Can anyone say IDIC...
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