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Old April 29 2013, 05:34 PM   #16
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Re: (Possible Spolier) Clip#3 'I Allow It': Kirk and Harrison.

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I still think it's all a lot of misdirection. Either that, or the Enterprise will find the Botany Bay and store it in the shuttle bay; but I wouldn't expect the survivors (including Khan) to be awakened at all in the film.

I just don't believe they would feature the same villain from TWoK.
Why not? Some of the biggest movie franchises in history have done it. How many times have seen The Joker or Lex Luthor reprized? Any of the baddies in Doctor Who for that matter.

I'm shocked people are so negative towards this since the last time Khan was actually on any screen was 31 years ago.
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Old April 29 2013, 05:37 PM   #17
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Re: (Possible Spolier) Clip#3 'I Allow It': Kirk and Harrison.

So how do the Klingons figure into all of this???


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Old April 29 2013, 05:38 PM   #18
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Re: (Possible Spolier) Clip#3 'I Allow It': Kirk and Harrison.

Cinema Geekly wrote: View Post
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I still think it's all a lot of misdirection. Either that, or the Enterprise will find the Botany Bay and store it in the shuttle bay; but I wouldn't expect the survivors (including Khan) to be awakened at all in the film.

I just don't believe they would feature the same villain from TWoK.
Why not? Some of the biggest movie franchises in history have done it. How many times have seen The Joker or Lex Luthor reprized? Any of the baddies in Doctor Who for that matter.

I'm shocked people are so negative towards this since the last time Khan was actually on any screen was 31 years ago.
Less, if you count Dana Carvey as Khan on Saturday Night Live.
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Old April 29 2013, 05:41 PM   #19
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Re: (Possible Spolier) Clip#3 'I Allow It': Kirk and Harrison.

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Cumberbatch makes Pine look like a high school drama club washout.
I didn't think so. I thought Pine was rather good in that clip. I think he is a fine actor. I think he is holing his own against Cumberbatch
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Old April 29 2013, 07:30 PM   #20
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I still think it's all a lot of misdirection. Either that, or the Enterprise will find the Botany Bay and store it in the shuttle bay; but I wouldn't expect the survivors (including Khan) to be awakened at all in the film.

I just don't believe they would feature the same villain from TWoK.
Why not? Some of the biggest movie franchises in history have done it. How many times have seen The Joker or Lex Luthor reprized? Any of the baddies in Doctor Who for that matter.

I'm shocked people are so negative towards this since the last time Khan was actually on any screen was 31 years ago.
Less, if you count Dana Carvey as Khan on Saturday Night Live.
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Old April 29 2013, 07:39 PM   #21
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Re: (Possible Spolier) Clip#3 'I Allow It': Kirk and Harrison.

Dirty silverware stored next to clean!

I have dreamed of this moment, Kirk, for 25 yearrrrrrrrssssss...
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Old April 29 2013, 07:46 PM   #22
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Re: (Possible Spolier) Clip#3 'I Allow It': Kirk and Harrison.

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So how do the Klingons figure into all of this???


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And what exactly is at the coordinates that Khan gave? The wreckage of the Botany Bay?
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Old April 29 2013, 07:48 PM   #23
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Re: (Possible Spolier) Clip#3 'I Allow It': Kirk and Harrison.

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So how do the Klingons figure into all of this???


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And what exactly is at the coordinates that Khan gave? The wreckage of the Botany Bay?
Or it could be the base of operations for the Starship Vengeance, or both!
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Old April 29 2013, 07:57 PM   #24
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Re: (Possible Spolier) Clip#3 'I Allow It': Kirk and Harrison.

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So how do the Klingons figure into all of this???


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And what exactly is at the coordinates that Khan gave? The wreckage of the Botany Bay?
Or it could be the base of operations for the Starship Vengeance, or both!

I was thinking it had to do with that new ship, maybe it is a construction yard or a base. Why would the Federation be working with the Klingons at this point? Also, I wonder if we will find out what Starfleet was doing in the laurentian system, mentioned in Trek 2009.



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Old April 29 2013, 08:03 PM   #25
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Re: (Possible Spolier) Clip#3 'I Allow It': Kirk and Harrison.

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Cumberbatch owns this.
What's happening in it? I'm on errands and can't see it..
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Old April 29 2013, 08:08 PM   #26
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Re: (Possible Spolier) Clip#3 'I Allow It': Kirk and Harrison.

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Cumberbatch owns this.
What's happening in it? I'm on errands and can't see it..
It's Kirk coming to the brig where Harrison is, and Kirk is pissed.

Harrison is just completely cool and calm in the face of Kirk being close to throwing him out an airlock, and Cumberbatch just oozes coolness in the whole scene. Really nicely done.
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Old April 29 2013, 08:09 PM   #27
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Re: (Possible Spolier) Clip#3 'I Allow It': Kirk and Harrison.

Both actors do a great job in this clip. The reason why Cumberbath's performance is dominating Pine's is because that's exactly what the scene needs. Harrison is calm, collected and utterly cold, while Kirk is steely-eyed and boiling just below the surface.
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Old April 29 2013, 08:12 PM   #28
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Re: (Possible Spolier) Clip#3 'I Allow It': Kirk and Harrison.

So it's just.... talking, huh?

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Old April 29 2013, 08:15 PM   #29
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Re: (Possible Spolier) Clip#3 'I Allow It': Kirk and Harrison.

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Both actors do a great job in this clip. The reason why Cumberbath's performance is dominating Pine's is because that's exactly what the scene needs. Harrison is calm, collected and utterly cold, while Kirk is steely-eyed and boiling just below the surface.
I agree. It is really well done, with the contrast showing between them very clearly.

I wouldn't at all use this scene as some kind of yardstick for acting ability (as some folks are), because this is just a minute of footage.

For example, in the last trailer, Kirk turning to the bridge crew and saying, "I'm sorry" in an almost defeated and guilty tone is really nicely done and really for that moment.
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Old April 29 2013, 08:18 PM   #30
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Re: (Possible Spolier) Clip#3 'I Allow It': Kirk and Harrison.

The existence of a ship like Vengeance isn't going to be a satisfactory justification to Kirk for what Cumberbatch's character has done, so I doubt that's what the coordinates pertain to.
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