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Old May 22 2013, 11:50 AM   #901
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True, though I hope we will get some clarity on the series being cannon or not... As much as I love TAS, I hate the whole 'cannon-not cannon' discussion (started by GR I guess).
I have TAS right there on my shelf next to TOS, TNG, et al. It was produced, filmed, and aired. It's onscreen. It's canon, as far as I'm concerned.

A lot of the episodes were written by TOS veterans. I don't know when Roddenberry decided to turn his back on it.
GR turned his back on STV as well, but that film is considered to be canon, so I've always wondered why the same can't be done regarding TAS.
True. Everything Gene said should be taken with a grain of salt. There was a time when he even disavowed TOS as canon! When he was promoting TNG.

He didn't consider TFF or TUC canon either. And didn't like the military direction of the series after TMP.

If the rule is 'if it's onscreen, it is canon', then TAS is canon. I have a copy on DVD right here. It was as onscreen as any of the other shows or movies.
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Old May 22 2013, 12:21 PM   #902
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I'll be happy for the day when Roddenberry's name is never mentioned again (kudos for kickstarting notwithstanding).
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Old May 22 2013, 12:22 PM   #903
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I'll be happy for the day when Roddenberry's name is never mentioned again (kudos for kickstarting notwithstanding).
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Old May 22 2013, 12:29 PM   #904
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Tuesday numbers

6.9m
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Old May 22 2013, 12:33 PM   #905
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I'll be happy for the day when Roddenberry's name is never mentioned again (kudos for kickstarting notwithstanding).
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Old May 22 2013, 01:00 PM   #906
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Tuesday numbers

6.9m
Seems like a pretty decent number to me.
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Old May 22 2013, 01:21 PM   #907
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Paramount is releasing several previews in IMAX theaters in Brazil (10) and the demand is great. The movie will premiere on June 14th in 2D. I think that STID box office in Brazil will have a greater increase than ST 2009.

I´m very happy and surprise. Finally, we are helping you.
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Old May 22 2013, 01:31 PM   #908
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Seemingly, international box office is going to save the day - giving STID a more than respectable haul.
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Old May 22 2013, 01:35 PM   #909
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Tuesday numbers

6.9m
To compare, ST09 made $6.5M during its first Tuesday.
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Old May 22 2013, 01:39 PM   #910
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Interesting. Some movies had this behavior. Box office regular or weak in the USA and very well internationally. Now STID is getting very popular outside USA. This is good because we are ensuring an respectable international box office for the next movie. Paramount needs to know the reason the film did not take off in your home. I'm not saying that is bad in the USA but expected to double.
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Old May 22 2013, 01:52 PM   #911
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Interesting. Some movies had this behavior. Box office regular or weak in the USA and very well internationally. Now STID is getting very popular outside USA. This is good because we are ensuring an respectable international box office for the next movie. Paramount needs to know the reason the film did not take off in your home. I'm not saying that is bad in the USA but expected to double.
Agreed, Paramount needs to do some serious research and discern any possible factors involved in STID's good, but relatively disappointing performance in NA. Of course, it may be Trek has a natural "ceiling" for reasons many have discussed in this thread.
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Old May 22 2013, 02:24 PM   #912
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STiD should track closely with Star Trek's daily numbers through its first two weeks. It's the third weekend where it has an uphill battle. Star Trek had a great hold on its second weekend, a regular weekend, and then another great hold on its third weekend, the inflated Memorial Day weekend. STiD's second weekend is Memorial Day weekend. Films entering their third weekend the week after Memorial Day typically have a weekend drop in the high 40s to the mid-50s. Getting a good hold on that weekend is going to be very tough. That's the danger point where STiD could fall behind.
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Old May 22 2013, 02:40 PM   #913
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IOW, Into Darkness continues to run somewhat ahead of Star Trek 2009 at the box office and people are wandering around with long faces.
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Old May 22 2013, 02:44 PM   #914
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True. Everything Gene said should be taken with a grain of salt. There was a time when he even disavowed TOS as canon! When he was promoting TNG.

He didn't consider TFF or TUC canon either. And didn't like the military direction of the series after TMP.
He was also a giant cokehead who had a good idea in the 60s. The rest? Not as good.
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Old May 22 2013, 02:49 PM   #915
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He was also a giant cokehead who had a good idea in the 60s.
IOW, not that unusual.
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