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Old June 15 2013, 06:33 PM   #2161
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Re: STID "tracking" for $85-90 million opening [U.S. box office]

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STID tumbled on Friday to 1.44m due to losing hundreds of theatres and because of Man of Steel.

ST09 made $2.5m on its 5th Friday, 1m more than STID.

I think Into Darkness will finish with around $225m in total, $30m short of ST09 in-spite of 4 years ticket price inflation AND 3D. Ultimately the domestic run of STID is a disappointment.
And Star Trek 2009 wasn't competing with Iron Man 3 and Fast and the Furious 6. It's all about context. Into Darkness did great business overseas and will sell like hotcakes on Blu-ray/DVD.

When all is said and done, it will have been a huge financial success for Paramount.
Agreed.

However in the USA and Canada, the box office gross is a disappointment. That is what I am saying. Competition was more fierce but this means people chose the competition over Trek.
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Old June 15 2013, 06:41 PM   #2162
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However in the USA and Canada, the box office gross is a disappointment. That is what I am saying. Competition was more fierce but this means people chose the competition over Trek.
Which is the way its always been. Americans seem to have an easier time connecting with contemporary sci-fi than futuristic sci-fi and contemporary action than futuristic action.

I had hoped this one would do major business here, but was concerned with what it was competing with.

Plus, I'll say now, I don't think we see a budget cut with the third film. But I do think they will up the action to continue to appeal to foreign markets. Star Trek for the foreseeable future will be more a straight action franchise.
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Old June 15 2013, 06:44 PM   #2163
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Re: STID "tracking" for $85-90 million opening [U.S. box office]

Any news about overseas gross?

It would be great if STID could past $450 million mark.
Anyway for the next movie. Why dont Paramount do aka Kill Bill. Just write extra long story/script and make 2 movies. First should be release in December 2015 and second December 2016.
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Old June 15 2013, 06:51 PM   #2164
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Star Trek already had a movie that killed Bill. It was called Generations.
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Old June 15 2013, 08:57 PM   #2165
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It looks like Man of Steel is going to have a very big weekend. It made $12 million on Thursday and $44 million on Friday. Box Office Mojo is predicting $120 million for the four-day weekend.

I actually really enjoyed this film until the 1 hour plus fight scene kicked in. I have to say, although it looked absolutely amazing, it was dull as hell. It ruined a perfectly good movie.
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Old June 15 2013, 09:04 PM   #2166
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Movie is splitting opinion, I thought all the stuff before the fight was dull and lacked substance, certainly not better than 1/2/SR as far as depicting loneliness or Clark Kent.
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Old June 15 2013, 09:06 PM   #2167
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However in the USA and Canada, the box office gross is a disappointment. That is what I am saying. Competition was more fierce but this means people chose the competition over Trek.
Which is the way its always been. Americans seem to have an easier time connecting with contemporary sci-fi than futuristic sci-fi and contemporary action than futuristic action.

I had hoped this one would do major business here, but was concerned with what it was competing with.

Plus, I'll say now, I don't think we see a budget cut with the third film. But I do think they will up the action to continue to appeal to foreign markets. Star Trek for the foreseeable future will be more a straight action franchise.
Well in the United Kingdom, ST09 was a great success and was its biggest market outside of the USA and arguably the second most 'saturated' and if any foreign market would see a drop it would presumably be the UK for the same reasons as the USA (competition/content/release date)

But in the UK Star Trek Into Darkness has increased over Star Trek 2009.

STID currently: 24.8m Pounds
ST09 total: 21.3m Pounds

Against the same competition. The UK has not increased its cinema screens like other countries and STID has not got a bigger release than ST09 did because with USA it was the most heavily saturated Trek market... but its increased! USA didnt. USA = disappointing gross. UK & Rest of world a success.
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Old June 15 2013, 09:56 PM   #2168
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According to Wikipedia,

In 2012, a Brazilian film director used Cinemascope for his film.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinemascope
And some people speak Latin, but it's still a dead language.
Actual CinemaScope is perhaps "mostly dead" but the use 'scope as shorthand for anamorphic prints and/or aspect ratios of 2.35-2.40:1 is so ubiquitous that to "correct" someone on that comes off somewhat pedantic (not to say I don't share the impulse to make such corrections--I was quite prone to doing so in my youth, but now I mainly leave that impulse for my classes).
This is a few days old, but I wasn't being needlessly pedantic. As real Cinemascope is effectively a dead format, despite the continued use of the "Scope" nomenclature, I was trying to clarify if the comparison was being made to actual Cinemascope or not.
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Old June 15 2013, 10:26 PM   #2169
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. Ultimately the domestic run of STID is a disappointment.
But it will kick ass (by a huge margin) over STO9 overseas BO performance; and probably go on to be the highest grossing (overall) Star Trek film to date.

But why state all the facts when they don't fit your agenda?

Bottom line: STID is a BIG success for Paramount and the Star Trek franchise; and we'll get a third film with these actors, and characterizations.
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Old June 15 2013, 10:41 PM   #2170
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It looks like Man of Steel is going to have a very big weekend. It made $12 million on Thursday and $44 million on Friday. Box Office Mojo is predicting $120 million for the four-day weekend.

I actually really enjoyed this film until the 1 hour plus fight scene kicked in. I have to say, although it looked absolutely amazing, it was dull as hell. It ruined a perfectly good movie.
Just saw it a couple of hours ago. My wife and I both liked it very much. Into Darkness was better, however.
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Old June 15 2013, 10:47 PM   #2171
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How does STD fare against Trek 2009 when you take the 3D ticket prices into account?
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Old June 15 2013, 11:53 PM   #2172
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. Ultimately the domestic run of STID is a disappointment.
But it will kick ass (by a huge margin) over STO9 overseas BO performance; and probably go on to be the highest grossing (overall) Star Trek film to date.

But why state all the facts when they don't fit your agenda?

Bottom line: STID is a BIG success for Paramount and the Star Trek franchise; and we'll get a third film with these actors, and characterizations.
I don't have an agenda against STID, I want it to succeed everywhere. When I single out 'domestic' I am referring to North America only. I am aware that trek is doing much better overseas but my post was about the Friday box office in NA and it being much lower than ST09 both on the day and as a whole.

The North American gross of Into Darkness is disappointing, but the rest of the world is a success. I think most people would agree with that statement?
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Old June 16 2013, 12:39 AM   #2173
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Re: STID "tracking" for $85-90 million opening [U.S. box office]

The key will be to combine 2009's domestic with 2013's foreign takes for the next movie...
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Old June 16 2013, 12:54 AM   #2174
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Re: STID "tracking" for $85-90 million opening [U.S. box office]

Did my part, saw it for the 4th & likelh final time today, this time I brought my wife, a non-Trek/Sci-fi fan. She liked it. Now to wait for the blu-ray & two-disc special edition soundtrack.
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Old June 16 2013, 01:09 AM   #2175
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How does STD fare against Trek 2009 when you take the 3D ticket prices into account?
STID sold more tickets than ST here in Germany.
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