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Old June 15 2013, 12:16 AM   #2146
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Re: STID "tracking" for $85-90 million opening [U.S. box office]

Hey, only a 2% drop-off from Wednesday...
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Old June 15 2013, 12:56 AM   #2147
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It really gets worse the more I think about it and further away I get, it's just lucky it had a strong end as far as an action set piece goes.
You liked the last half hour of action??? I thought it was such a boring finale, the kind of 'action' we've seen a hundred times.
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Old June 15 2013, 12:57 AM   #2148
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That MoS had a rotten rating even before it freaking released worries me greatly... but, dammit, it's Superman so I have to obey the call despite my reservations.

One question about it here, how's the theme/soundtrack sound - are they anything at all like the Classics?
The score is a typical Zimmer; think PotC III only bleak and dull.
Recycling, eh? It had been a while since I watched that so I've been listening to it on yt. I think I may be getting the vibe of what he did in MOS. Take out all the 'Pirate' themes and what's left over is probably pretty much MoS.

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Yee-haa!

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Old June 15 2013, 01:04 AM   #2149
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The score is a typical Zimmer; think PotC III only bleak and dull.
Recycling, eh? It had been a while since I watched that so I've been listening to it on yt. I think I may be getting the vibe of what he did in MOS. Take out all the 'Pirate' themes and what's left over is probably pretty much MoS.
And garnished with lots and lots of heavy percussion.
I wonder what happened to the composer who wrote the score for Gladiator, they should have used him. That Zimmer was good. This one, not so much.
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Old June 15 2013, 04:46 AM   #2150
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That MoS had a rotten rating even before it freaking released worries me greatly... but, dammit, it's Superman so I have to obey the call despite my reservations.

One question about it here, how's the theme/soundtrack sound - are they anything at all like the Classics?
Disappointing...

I kept waiting (and hoping) to hear little strains of John Williams' Superman theme mixed in, but to no avail.

I far as I could tell there is really no Fan-fare theme in this movie at all.

I'd be hard-pressed to be able to tell someone that I could remember the music, there's nothing really that stands out in my mind.
(and I love music of all kinds dearly)

Again, it's probably attune to the fact that todays younger audiences seem to feel more akin to all things macabre and solemn than I do.

It'll probably be a huge hit with folks under twentyfive.
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Old June 15 2013, 05:19 AM   #2151
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That MoS had a rotten rating even before it freaking released worries me greatly... but, dammit, it's Superman so I have to obey the call despite my reservations.

One question about it here, how's the theme/soundtrack sound - are they anything at all like the Classics?
Disappointing...

I kept waiting (and hoping) to hear little strains of John Williams' Superman theme mixed in, but to no avail.

I far as I could tell there is really no Fan-fare theme in this movie at all.

I'd be hard-pressed to be able to tell someone that I could remember the music, there's nothing really that stands out in my mind.
(and I love music of all kinds dearly)

Again, it's probably attune to the fact that todays younger audiences seem to feel more akin to all things macabre and solemn than I do.

It'll probably be a huge hit with folks under twentyfive.

You may want to read this.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/3404982/

Zimmer purposefully left out the trumpet fanfare. Its a hard reboot like Batman Begins was for Batman. You look at Superman Returns which was a homage to the classic films of the 70's and 80's Superman. And where is it now? A mediocre success that never got a sequel. With the director and writers (the same writer, director, producers of X-Men 1 and 2) all distancing themselves as far back as 2008 from any potential sequel. With Bryan Singer himself admitting the flaws of his movie and regrets.
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Old June 15 2013, 06:10 AM   #2152
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That MoS had a rotten rating even before it freaking released worries me greatly... but, dammit, it's Superman so I have to obey the call despite my reservations.

One question about it here, how's the theme/soundtrack sound - are they anything at all like the Classics?
Disappointing...

I kept waiting (and hoping) to hear little strains of John Williams' Superman theme mixed in, but to no avail.

I far as I could tell there is really no Fan-fare theme in this movie at all.

I'd be hard-pressed to be able to tell someone that I could remember the music, there's nothing really that stands out in my mind.
(and I love music of all kinds dearly)

Again, it's probably attune to the fact that todays younger audiences seem to feel more akin to all things macabre and solemn than I do.

It'll probably be a huge hit with folks under twentyfive.

You may want to read this.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/3404982/

Zimmer purposefully left out the trumpet fanfare. Its a hard reboot like Batman Begins was for Batman. You look at Superman Returns which was a homage to the classic films of the 70's and 80's Superman. And where is it now? A mediocre success that never got a sequel. With the director and writers (the same writer, director, producers of X-Men 1 and 2) all distancing themselves as far back as 2008 from any potential sequel. With Bryan Singer himself admitting the flaws of his movie and regrets.
I've always prefaced my thoughts on this, with the fact that I am an "Old School" comic fan...

I understand completely that this movie wasn't made for folks like me.
I was just hoping that they would have been able to balance it out a bit more without having to completely cut out what I've come to know as the Superman 'mythos', for all these years.

I just don't think it's going to sit well with the general movie-going public.
It's too desolate and grim in my opinion.
As I've said before, SUPERMAN was created to up-lift ones spirit, not show that he can be just as cold-hearted and dismal as the rest of us humans.
I left the theater feeling a bit sad, not up-lifted and I think that's going to cost them long-term, at the box-office.
This is not a movie I would want to see over and over.
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Old June 15 2013, 06:23 AM   #2153
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Considering how well the darker batman series was received and the positive reception if Capt America and Thor. I think MoS has nothing to worry about. It will do Warner Bros projected 500 million.

I myself am a huge Superman fan. Silver Age all the way through today. While Superman Returns was a classic age film it didn't inspire repeated viewings. Supes has been morphed into a go get'em action film for the summer. Superman Returns was a romantic drama film released in the summer of 2006. The times have changed and Superman has to also if he is to be relevant. Snyder said he approached this film as if it were a real scenario in our world. The light comic book fantasy doesn't play as well as it did back in the 70's-90's. Tough pill for us old school fans but we have to swallow.
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Old June 15 2013, 06:46 AM   #2154
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Given the nature of what was at stake in the film, I don't think Man Of Steel had too much room for whimsy and humor. The next one may, and if he has to pal around with people like the Flash in a JL movie, there will be some levity.

"That being said..." (in Spock Prime voice) STiD had a good blend of humor and seriousness, so it can be done.
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Old June 15 2013, 06:53 AM   #2155
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It'd be easier to swallow if it was a good film, but it isn't.
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Old June 15 2013, 08:49 AM   #2156
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LOL. I am an old school comics and Supes fan too. Shoot, I remember buy new Sgt Rock and Easy Co comics. With that said, the MOS is, IMO, a breath of fresh air. Gone are the old, cheesy camp boyscout Supes and they replace it with someone with heart and a salt of the earth attitude. the "real life" tack they took really made for an (I hate this word) epic show. Best Supes movie ever, yes even better than the sainted Chris Reeves. When you consider that a 1:30 in the afternoon show, in 2D is full and people gave it a standing ovation, that says something.
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Old June 15 2013, 09:09 AM   #2157
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I will gladly welcome back Abrams, Orci, Kurtzman and Lindelof.
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Old June 15 2013, 10:14 AM   #2158
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Saw STID for a fifth and final time tonight. Had one last close friend who still didn't get a chance in all my other excursions.

We were three (took a friend again who joined me last time) of six people in the theater total, but it was a 12:10 showing at a fairly mediocre theater and Man of Steel is opening, too. So, not really all that bad.

He loved it.
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Old June 15 2013, 06:22 PM   #2159
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STID tumbled on Friday to 1.44m due to losing hundreds of theatres and because of Man of Steel.

ST09 made $2.5m on its 5th Friday, 1m more than STID.

I think Into Darkness will finish with around $225m in total, $30m short of ST09 in-spite of 4 years ticket price inflation AND 3D. Ultimately the domestic run of STID is a disappointment.
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Old June 15 2013, 06:27 PM   #2160
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STID tumbled on Friday to 1.44m due to losing hundreds of theatres and because of Man of Steel.

ST09 made $2.5m on its 5th Friday, 1m more than STID.

I think Into Darkness will finish with around $225m in total, $30m short of ST09 in-spite of 4 years ticket price inflation AND 3D. Ultimately the domestic run of STID is a disappointment.
And Star Trek 2009 wasn't competing with Iron Man 3 and Fast and the Furious 6. It's all about context. Into Darkness did great business overseas and will sell like hotcakes on Blu-ray/DVD.

When all is said and done, it will have been a huge financial success for Paramount.
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