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Old June 7 2013, 03:52 AM   #1756
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Re: STID "tracking" for $85-90 million opening [U.S. box office]

No other major studio is going to abandon their May release schedules in years to come because Disney is making Star Wars movies.
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Old June 7 2013, 05:06 AM   #1757
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Re: STID "tracking" for $85-90 million opening [U.S. box office]

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No other major studio is going to abandon their May release schedules in years to come because Disney is making Star Wars movies.
But Star Trek and Star Wars are about as direct competition as you can get...

It's simply a bad idea to pit them against each other.
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Old June 7 2013, 06:52 AM   #1758
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I feel as though I've done my part. I've seen the movie three times. I may consider going again. Of course, I live in Australia, so I often feel my voice is not counted when it comes to Star Trek. I was probably one of the twenty people who watched Enterprise here, when they shoved it in the 12am death slot on TV. A lot of Aussie fans just resorted to pirating the episodes, because they relegated all the shows to the graveyard shift on TV, the time zone where you get adult chat lines advertised.

I'm not sure how much of the international gross makes it to the studio, either.

It's made $13,838,405 here. According to Box office Mojo.
It doesn't help that our dollar has dropped so sharply! Bit sad that The Hangover overtook Star Trek's gross here in half the time.

Ah, I remember the late nights watching Star Trek. DS9 and Voyager were on at 11pm, years behind the US. Enterprise's pilot aired on a Saturday night and was artificially split into two parts, then was buried at midnight.
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Old June 7 2013, 07:33 AM   #1759
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It's also a nice reminder that America is no longer the center of the universe.
Was it ever? I mean besides for those 10 minutes in the 50s.
Hey. HEY!!! Ten minutes. What'd dya mean ten? It was at least 30...ok 20.
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Old June 7 2013, 09:08 AM   #1760
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I was probably one of the twenty people who watched Enterprise here, when they shoved it in the 12am death slot on TV.
I should point out that despite what you call "the death slot", all the spin-off series - TNG, DS9, VOY and ENT - regularly won their timeslots for the Nine Network, which is really all that advertisers care about: a guaranteed maximum audience.

A lot of Aussie fans just resorted to pirating the episodes
And many of us bought them on sell-thru video (up through Season One of ENT, anyway, because Paramount Home Video's UK division decided against doing the masters for video format's of ENT Seasons 2-4, preferring to wait for DVD - and we had to use the UK masters and package designs) or rented them from video shops.

It's made $13,838,405 here. According to Box office Mojo.
And it's not our peak movie-watching season, either!
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Old June 7 2013, 03:00 PM   #1761
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I did my part last night as I paid full pop for a 3D IMAX showing (second viewing overall--best I can manage with my schedule and kids). Will probably catch it one more time before it leaves the cinemas altogether but not in IMAX (no time between now and next week when Man of Steel dislodges Trek from there).
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Old June 7 2013, 03:07 PM   #1762
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I feel as though I've done my part. I've seen the movie three times. I may consider going again. Of course, I live in Australia, so I often feel my voice is not counted when it comes to Star Trek. I was probably one of the twenty people who watched Enterprise here, when they shoved it in the 12am death slot on TV. A lot of Aussie fans just resorted to pirating the episodes, because they relegated all the shows to the graveyard shift on TV, the time zone where you get adult chat lines advertised.

I'm not sure how much of the international gross makes it to the studio, either.

It's made $13,838,405 here. According to Box office Mojo.
It doesn't help that our dollar has dropped so sharply! Bit sad that The Hangover overtook Star Trek's gross here in half the time.

Ah, I remember the late nights watching Star Trek. DS9 and Voyager were on at 11pm, years behind the US. Enterprise's pilot aired on a Saturday night and was artificially split into two parts, then was buried at midnight.
All I remember is the endless phone sex ads and falling asleep in front of Enterprise only to be woken up by the theme music at the end. And stupid me thought it was boring! It was a whole different show when I took my viewing into my own hands and fuck you'd the tv stations.

And yeah I have since bought it on dvd, three times in fact as gifts.

That was the last show I tried to watch on commercial television.
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Old June 7 2013, 04:51 PM   #1763
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But Star Trek and Star Wars are about as direct competition as you can get...
I doubt it.

Every big action movie released in May and June is targeting the same audience in the U.S. - folks who are particularly "skiffy geeks" don't represent much of a factor.

A buddy comedy or a rom-com or even an animated feature might represent counter-scheduling, but as far as action blockbusters are concerned Star Wars would be no more or less a concern than Fast And Furious 9.

Outside the U.S., of course, Paramount pursues an entirely different, staggered release schedule.
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Old June 7 2013, 05:09 PM   #1764
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A buddy comedy or a rom-com or even an animated feature might represent counter-scheduling, but as far as action blockbusters are concerned Star Wars would be no more or less a concern than Fast And Furious 9.
You can't seriously believe that?

All the hype will be about Star Wars, Trek will be completely forgotten/ignored by the mainstream and no amount of marketing dollars will make a difference.

Hell how many ST:ID reviews/interviews with Abrams was Star Wars brought up somehow? A fair few. A lot of reviews seemed to see Trek 2 as a warm-up for Star Wars VII.
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Old June 7 2013, 05:26 PM   #1765
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Unless Paramount pushes the next Star Trek film into high gear, it won't be premiering against the publicity machine that will be Abram's Star Wars film, which has a 2015 release date. It will be facing off against one of the side-story movies, assuming Disney goes forward with those and makes their 2016 release date. So, the hype won't be as much of a problem.
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Old June 7 2013, 05:29 PM   #1766
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STID moves back into 4th place with $1,631,132 on Wednesday. Total is:
$186,681,718 domestic, and $334 million worldwide.

Apparently Paramount is projecting $260 million International and $230 million domestic, for a total of $490 million. $15 million short of my prediction.

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230 domestic appears a bit optimistic, but y'never know!
I think Paramount have over estimated like they did with the opening US weekend. $440-450 seems more likely.
Their first projection was right on the nose.

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Old June 7 2013, 05:51 PM   #1767
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You can't seriously believe that?
You can't seriously still believe that Star Trek is something "special" in the entertainment industry?

Whenever Star Wars opens, three other big would-be blockbuster movies will open in the same month. Some will succeed, some won't. Star Trek is just one of those.
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Old June 7 2013, 06:13 PM   #1768
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For better or for worse, excepting the Clone Wars animated movie, the STAR WARS films still gross above the TREKs, separately or collectively. At the moment Marvel seems to be the biggest challenge to Lucasfilm supremacy.

If they go forward with having one WARS film every year, instead of every three, that might take some of the prestige factor out. Bond and LORD OF THE RINGS could score critically on a yearly basis, but more often than not you end up with a SAW or FRIDAY the 13th annual non-event.
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Old June 7 2013, 06:15 PM   #1769
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Re: STID "tracking" for $85-90 million opening [U.S. box office]

I was just going to comment about the possibility of the next Star Wars movie not actually being any good - thereby lessening its box office dominance. But then I remembered The Phantom Menace and Attack Of The Clones.
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Old June 7 2013, 06:16 PM   #1770
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. It will be facing off against one of the side-story movies, assuming Disney goes forward with those and makes their 2016 release date. So, the hype won't be as much of a problem.
Not just one of those side stories - the first of those side stories. So its an almost untested area. Depending on how they film there might even be a trailer with Episode VII

It would make sense for Trek to make the most of it's 50th Anniversary year, the actual date is in August.
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