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Old May 31 2013, 05:26 PM   #1531
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Re: STID "tracking" for $85-90 million opening [U.S. box office]

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And what of the percentage of people who own or rent DVD's, Blu-rays, use Netflix, ITunes, etc., versus the percentage who rented or owned VHS tapes back in the day? If it's "common sense" that illegal downloading is up, then it's "common sense" that those numbers of legal behavior are up, too.
Yes, there are more revenue streams from home entertainment these days, and pirating costs revenue across all of those streams. Not every instance of pirating is a lost sale, but a certain percentage are. It's hard to say how many. Netflix may be decreasing pirate activity online, although I've read differing accounts on that.
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Old May 31 2013, 05:41 PM   #1532
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And what of the percentage of people who own or rent DVD's, Blu-rays, use Netflix, ITunes, etc., versus the percentage who rented or owned VHS tapes back in the day? If it's "common sense" that illegal downloading is up, then it's "common sense" that those numbers of legal behavior are up, too.
Yes, there are more revenue streams from home entertainment these days, and pirating costs revenue across all of those streams. Not every instance of pirating is a lost sale, but a certain percentage are. It's hard to say how many. Netflix may be decreasing pirate activity online, although I've read differing accounts on that.
With that, I agree.
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Old May 31 2013, 05:43 PM   #1533
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Re: STID "tracking" for $85-90 million opening [U.S. box office]

china looking at a $46M total

ST09 did $8M total last time
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Old May 31 2013, 05:52 PM   #1534
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$60-65 million from China and South Korea combined would certainly be a big help in getting the worldwide total into the $450 million range, albeit that the studio gets a low percentage from China.
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Old May 31 2013, 05:58 PM   #1535
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Star Trek was about characters being philosophical and exploring the human condition, using science that was credible
No, it wasn't. It was a TV action/drama series, and the science was rarely credible.

...a criteria established by Roddenberry at the onset of the franchise
No, he didn't. "Wagon Train To The Stars." You ever watch Wagon Train, BTW?

...and solving issues through diplomacy and negotiation, and occasionally, with weapons.
Frequently weapons, and a fist fight or two just about every week.

STID is a lot more like the original Star Trek television series than any previous Star Trek movie.
THIS!!! A dead on rebuttal and depiction of what Star Trek really was. I for one know that I had trouble getting into DS9 because it was too different from TNG (although I did take more interest when the introduced the war with the Dominion). This ethereal image of Star Trek that some people like to wax poetic about is nothing more than revisionist history.
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Old May 31 2013, 06:04 PM   #1536
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Based on the Thursday number I think we're looking at a $17.5-18.5 million weekend, with an outside shot at $19-20 million if the Friday increase is really good.
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Old May 31 2013, 06:39 PM   #1537
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I think 18m for this weekend now because Thursday is a little lower than I thought.

Excellent news about China. South Korea seems to be double ST09 and if Japan is also double then that will be $70m from those three countries alone. ST09 got $20m from those 3.
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Old May 31 2013, 06:52 PM   #1538
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$60-65 million from China and South Korea combined would certainly be a big help in getting the worldwide total into the $450 million range, albeit that the studio gets a low percentage from China.
there are still two big markets: Japan and Brazil. I believe them.
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Old May 31 2013, 06:56 PM   #1539
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china looking at a $46M total

ST09 did $8M total last time
46 wow, got a source on that? sounds like great news.
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Old May 31 2013, 07:00 PM   #1540
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it also appears to be considerably outperforming after earth in south korea and will easy double the 09 take.
That's because they recut the film with Psy playing Khan.
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Old May 31 2013, 07:23 PM   #1541
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it also appears to be considerably outperforming after earth in south korea and will easy double the 09 take.
That's because they recut the film with Psy playing Khan.
and Sulu is he leader of the federation throughout.
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Old May 31 2013, 07:27 PM   #1542
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Now the China box office dude on the boxoffice.com forums is saying $45m is the 'floor' for China boxoffice and he predicts $57m!

So I guess the figures coming out of China are all looking excellent so far for him to be able to make that prediction. If China alone can make that sort of money then I think $500m is possible again.
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Old May 31 2013, 09:20 PM   #1543
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Thursday actual: $2,562,579 for $164,756,486 to date. Star Trek made $2,980,049 on the Thursday before its third weekend.
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Old May 31 2013, 10:31 PM   #1544
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Wow $50 million from China and another $20-25 million from Japan and Korea would be insane for STID.

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Thursday actual: $2,562,579 for $164,756,486 to date. Star Trek made $2,980,049 on the Thursday before its third weekend.
It's running about $800,000 less for the week than I predicted now, not bad really.

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Old May 31 2013, 11:25 PM   #1545
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The Hangover Part III (3,565 theaters) which on only its second weekend already is lagging Paramount’s Star Trek Into Darkness (3,585 theaters) which has been in release a week longer. The weekend numbers are looking like $12M-$13M vs $15M-$16M.
not really good hope it jumps a bit.
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