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Old April 27 2013, 06:32 PM   #91
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Nope. They will have to remake the CGI effects from scratch. And they will.
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Old April 27 2013, 07:37 PM   #92
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It would be way too expensive to do it and make it way more expensive than TNG which is not a good idea when the spinoffs where not as popular as TNG. I think it would require another company remaking the effects shots in addition to two companies editing them together. Surely this is too expensive. Its not just re-rendering the CGI models (which would have to be remade from scratch!) they have to match the virtual camera movements and positions of ships etc. Imagine trying to remake the fleet scenes in the latter seasons of DS9 - it would cost a fortune! OTOH they can simply upscale. Enterprise already has 480p CGI upscaled and so will DS9 and VOY. Surely the VFX companies sent in their CGI effects in a higher bitrate ready to be edited into their SD broadcasts just incase they are upscaled in the future. Perhaps these reels exist separately to the finished episodes, especially if they were edited into existing live action footage.
A. now you see why CBS has been reluctant to commit to DS9 or VOY

B. You way overestimate the CG that was done at the time. It will need to re-done. Remember the CG at the time was done as low resolution and with as low geometry as possible for 90's standard definition TV. It will look like just terrible when upscaled. You can already see low resolution textures on Voyager if you look.

Both Adam "Mojo" Lebowitz and Doug Drexler have said basically as much at different points in time when asked on their respective blogs.

C. Enterprise was done with much higher resolution initial models, etc. but rendered at 480p for rendering speed given the budgets and weekly schedules. It was eventually rendered at 720p depending on the shots.
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Old April 27 2013, 08:25 PM   #93
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Well if they remake the CGI in HD I will be pleasantly surprised and happy to be wrong
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Old April 28 2013, 08:33 PM   #94
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Yeah, I've been rewatching DS9 recently, and while the picture quality and effects do already seem a step above the TNG dvds, it's still FAR below HD-ready.
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Old April 29 2013, 06:20 PM   #95
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According to startrek.com. Redemption is coming out on July 30th. Can we assume this is the date that Season 4 is coming out too? Also, unless Target as another great deal for Season 4 and Redemption (And they might), I'm not sure I'm going to get this single disc. I didn't even decide to get BOBW until yesterday when I saw the ad. I just really wish they wouldn't do this, and now I think we know what the theatrical events are. It's a shame that none of the other Season 4 episodes will be featured. I hope I'm wrong though, but it seems like this is the direction they want to go for the remainder of the series.
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Old April 29 2013, 06:25 PM   #96
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^^ Season 4's on numerous websites over here (UK) for pre-order, release date of 29th July.
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Old April 29 2013, 06:52 PM   #97
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According to startrek.com. Redemption is coming out on July 30th. Can we assume this is the date that Season 4 is coming out too? Also, unless Target as another great deal for Season 4 and Redemption (And they might), I'm not sure I'm going to get this single disc. I didn't even decide to get BOBW until yesterday when I saw the ad. I just really wish they wouldn't do this, and now I think we know what the theatrical events are. It's a shame that none of the other Season 4 episodes will be featured. I hope I'm wrong though, but it seems like this is the direction they want to go for the remainder of the series.
I hope for the season 5 event they go with Unification over Time's Arrow and for season 6 Chains of Command over the craptacular Descent.
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Old April 29 2013, 07:05 PM   #98
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Other than 'just because it's the season-spanning two parters' there's no real logical reason to choose Time's Arrow over Unification or Descent over Chains of Command as clearly the latter episodes are far better.

Fingers crossed.
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Old April 29 2013, 07:12 PM   #99
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I'm revolting if they put Gambit on the big screen. Yuck.
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Old April 29 2013, 07:23 PM   #100
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Surely All Good Things as the Season 7 event is a no-brainer......?
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Old April 29 2013, 07:26 PM   #101
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That's why I didn't even bother to mention it.
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Old April 29 2013, 07:42 PM   #102
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My preferences would be:

Season 4 - Redemption 1+2 (which seems to be happening)
Season 5 - Unification 1+2 or Darmok/Cause and Effect (The Inner Light would be good too, but it was on the sampler, so it would be less of a draw)
Season 6 - Chain of Command 1+2 or Relics/Tapestry
Season 7 - All Good Things
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Old April 29 2013, 07:45 PM   #103
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Redemption standalone disc already detailed, courtesy of TrekCore:

- New documentary entitled Survive and Succeed: An Empire at War, featuring interviews with writer Ronald D. Moore, actors Michael Dorn, Robert O'Reilly (Gowron) and Gwynyth Walsh (B'Etor)
- Feature-length audio commentary by Moore and Michael and Denise Okuda.

http://trekcore.com/blog/2013/04/fir...oming-in-july/
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Old April 29 2013, 07:46 PM   #104
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i admit I am glad they are doing these 'taster' releases.

I recently finally completed my Trek season sets on DVD, and I don't really want to buy them all over again on Blu-Ray, HOWEVER I totally recognise the upgraded picture quality by taking from the film negatives as opposed to the videotape copies.

i do have all the movies on Blu-Ray, so in a way these 2parters as 1 can sit quite nicely with them. I haven't got 'The Next Level' yet but may get it with BOBW which sits nicely as a BD as First Contact is technically it's sequel and Redemption ties into the ST6 Klingon arc.

I'm trying to view them as movies as opposed to double-length episodes basically!

I hope we get Unification too for Season 5, with Chain of Command and All Good Things following. Maybe Gambit?

What does everyone think of Deep Space Nine & Voyager's chances of being HD'd? I love Emissary & Year of Hell and they could look amazing, and DS9 in particular showed a lot of amazing space battles.
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Old April 29 2013, 08:31 PM   #105
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If Deep Space Nine ever goes this route I hope we get "Improbable Cause/The Die is Cast" and "Homefront/Paradise Lost" on the big screen.
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