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Old August 20 2013, 01:34 AM   #766
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It is funny, what kind of details you now can see, because of the HD: In "Data's Day", when Data is sitting in Troi's office to discuss his help for Keiko and O'Brien, during his sentence "I will not grow old", a fly is crossing the camera.
Here's another one. In "In Theory", the label on the door of Jenna's quarters reads "Ensign Jenna D'Sora" yet she's a lieutenant.
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Old August 20 2013, 03:28 AM   #767
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It is funny, what kind of details you now can see, because of the HD: In "Data's Day", when Data is sitting in Troi's office to discuss his help for Keiko and O'Brien, during his sentence "I will not grow old", a fly is crossing the camera.
Here's another one. In "In Theory", the label on the door of Jenna's quarters reads "Ensign Jenna D'Sora" yet she's a lieutenant.
Maybe it was a recent promotion and they haven't made her a new door tag yet? Maintenance is kind of lagging on that.
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Old August 20 2013, 04:34 AM   #768
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I think I know what I want in a new Star Trek movie, like Star Trek III from JJ Abrams. I want a real first contact with the Cardassians.
They kinda screwed any chance of that in ST11, with the reference to the Cardassian Sunrise.
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Old August 20 2013, 05:08 AM   #769
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I think I know what I want in a new Star Trek movie, like Star Trek III from JJ Abrams. I want a real first contact with the Cardassians.
They kinda screwed any chance of that in ST11, with the reference to the Cardassian Sunrise.
Plus, the Vulcans already knew about the Cardassians at least as far back as ENT, since T'Pol stated that a Cardassian poet was living in exile on Vulcan.
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Old August 20 2013, 06:40 AM   #770
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I think I know what I want in a new Star Trek movie, like Star Trek III from JJ Abrams. I want a real first contact with the Cardassians.
They kinda screwed any chance of that in ST11, with the reference to the Cardassian Sunrise.
Plus, the Vulcans already knew about the Cardassians at least as far back as ENT, since T'Pol stated that a Cardassian poet was living in exile on Vulcan.
We don't know that in this universe. I thought it was supposed to be an alternate universe.

As for the Cardassian sunrise thing, ok, so it doesn't need to be about first contact. It can just be a movie with the Cardassians, since not much was really done with them other than DS9.
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Old August 20 2013, 01:44 PM   #771
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We don't know that in this universe. I thought it was supposed to be an alternate universe.
It is now, unless the high court retconned Ricardo Montalban out of the Prime Universe.
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Old August 20 2013, 01:47 PM   #772
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Plus, the Vulcans already knew about the Cardassians at least as far back as ENT, since T'Pol stated that a Cardassian poet was living in exile on Vulcan.
We don't know that in this universe. I thought it was supposed to be an alternate universe.
Alternate after the arrival of the Kelvin. Enterprise still holds.
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Old August 20 2013, 02:05 PM   #773
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Plus, the Vulcans already knew about the Cardassians at least as far back as ENT, since T'Pol stated that a Cardassian poet was living in exile on Vulcan.
We don't know that in this universe. I thought it was supposed to be an alternate universe.
Alternate after the arrival of the Kelvin. Enterprise still holds.
Yep, this is correct - and we know it's accurate, since a model of the NX-01 appears in Into Darkness.
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Old August 20 2013, 09:12 PM   #774
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Been watching the S4 set, and I have to ask-- what's up with the blurry lights in some of the Enterprise shots? Even in the second part of BOBW done by CBS-D, there was one.

Is that just the way they appeared from S4 onward, or is it a compositing mistake? I have a hard time believing CBS-D would just overlook something so obvious that continually shows up like that.
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Old August 20 2013, 10:06 PM   #775
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Been watching the S4 set, and I have to ask-- what's up with the blurry lights in some of the Enterprise shots? Even in the second part of BOBW done by CBS-D, there was one.

Is that just the way they appeared from S4 onward, or is it a compositing mistake? I have a hard time believing CBS-D would just overlook something so obvious that continually shows up like that.
Could you be more specific? What do you mean by blurry lights? Windows? Deflector dish? Can you give a time code?
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Old August 20 2013, 11:42 PM   #776
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The window lights on the Enterprise. In certain shots they appear blurred for some reason. I thought maybe it was part of a warp effect (similar to how the windows appeared in the TOS movies), but it shows up now and then even when the ship is at impulse.
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Old August 21 2013, 01:15 AM   #777
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I am sorry, but this is really disappointing, because this over-motionblurred shot of the 1701-D passing by appeared now in several episodes:



WTF!? How could anybody decide, that THIS is a correct shot and edit it in not only one but SEVERAL episodes??
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Old August 21 2013, 01:23 AM   #778
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I noticed this in several episodes. It looks ok when the ship is at warp, imo. But at impulse, definitely not. Its not as bad as the inconsistent transporter effects though. Its like every episode had a new flavor of effect.
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Old August 21 2013, 01:38 AM   #779
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The window lights on the Enterprise. In certain shots they appear blurred for some reason. I thought maybe it was part of a warp effect (similar to how the windows appeared in the TOS movies), but it shows up now and then even when the ship is at impulse.
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I am sorry, but this is really disappointing, because this over-motionblurred shot of the 1701-D passing by appeared now in several episodes:

WTF!? How could anybody decide, that THIS is a correct shot and edit it in not only one but SEVERAL episodes??
This was already addressed back in July. The correct footage wasn't located (or certain passes couldn't be located) and a similar shot (the one above, seen on Locutus' viewscreen in BOBW) was substituted, but it was not the correct length, so the shot was timewarped resulting in the added motion blur.

Frankly I still prefer it to the CG version.
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Old August 21 2013, 01:51 AM   #780
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...but it was not the correct length, so the shot was timewarped resulting in the added motion blur.
Ah, so that's what caused it. I think this is one of the rare cases where CGI is preferable to cheating with a real model shot.
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