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Old August 3 2013, 08:10 PM   #571
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Re: Season FOUR OFFICIAL TNG Blu-Ray Discussion Thread

I could only find a still of this shot from TrekCore's gallery with Junior attached, but I've noticed this particular Enterprise shot looks pretty bad on Blu-ray.



It's normally seen at the end of episodes. As the Enterprise flies away from the camera, the model loses nearly all detail. It gets worse as the shot progresses.
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Old August 3 2013, 09:10 PM   #572
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Glowing review from High-Def Digest...

http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/5233...ek_tng_s4.html
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Old August 3 2013, 09:32 PM   #573
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Watched Brothers last night - there's a really off blue-screen-effects shot where Brent Spiner (as Soong) walks up to Data and tests his eyesight moving a stick left to right. The blue screen behind Soong is really obvious (they don't seem to have corrected for it as they did in the original transmission), and somehow the eye contact Data makes with Soong and his pointy instrument seems more off than it did in the original transmission. Thus far the effects have been pretty good so it just seems to be the blue screen stuff here that wasn't quite as carefully handled.
It's really only problematic during the motion control pan (this was true motion control and not simply an anamorphic shot). As the camera pans with Soong, the traveling matte becomes more blurred and some slight blue fringing can be seen around his body. There's also a brief moment when you can see through his hand right as he says the word "familiar." That's an opacity issue with the matte they pulled from the bluescreen.

Also, in the earlier split-screen shot (also motion control) when Soong first walks up to Data, you can see some plant leaves that don't line up perfectly and appear as a double image. I first noticed it in TrekCore's early look at S4 screencaps.

BTW, for those who are sensitive to these types of errors... if it drives you up the wall, or takes you out of the story, don't go looking for them. Once you see them you can never un-see them! Just try to keep your eyes on the faces and performances. I know that's a bit like me saying pay no attention to the pink elephant, but what are you gonna do?
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Old August 3 2013, 10:17 PM   #574
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I could only find a still of this shot from TrekCore's gallery with Junior attached, but I've noticed this particular Enterprise shot looks pretty bad on Blu-ray.



It's normally seen at the end of episodes. As the Enterprise flies away from the camera, the model loses nearly all detail. It gets worse as the shot progresses.
The shot looks much better at the end of "The Nth Degree." For some reason it looks too flat and low contrast in "Galaxy's Child" with missing nav lights. Here, I whipped up a screenshot comparison... sorry for the 720p resolution, it's easier for me to take screencaps from my rips than go back to the blu-rays at the moment:

http://www.screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/34947
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Old August 3 2013, 11:55 PM   #575
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The four-footer looks pretty butt-ugly in both shots, IMO.
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Old August 4 2013, 12:15 AM   #576
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The four-footer is butt-ugly in general.
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Old August 4 2013, 08:27 PM   #577
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Re: Season FOUR OFFICIAL TNG Blu-Ray Discussion Thread

I'm sure it's been mentioned, but has anyone noticed that Timothy Carharts name appears twice in the credits on the "Redemption" bluray?
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Old August 4 2013, 08:33 PM   #578
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You can see the big differences between the two
http://images.wikia.com/memoryalpha/...oot_models.jpg

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Old August 4 2013, 08:56 PM   #579
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You can see the big differences between the two
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Ugh. Would it really have been that damn hard for them to use a thinner grade of plastic for the model? That's what ruins the look and lines of the ship the most. I can take the exaggerated lines and panels and such on it but look at the thickness of the deflector housing that's just fugly. I mean did they make the model out roofing tiles?
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Old August 4 2013, 08:59 PM   #580
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I'm sure it's been mentioned, but has anyone noticed that Timothy Carharts name appears twice in the credits on the "Redemption" bluray?
There was an error in creating the credits for the feature-length Redemption, yes. Unfortunately Whoopi Goldberg's credit was substituted for a (second) Timothy Carhart.
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Old August 4 2013, 09:01 PM   #581
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I'm sure it's been mentioned, but has anyone noticed that Timothy Carharts name appears twice in the credits on the "Redemption" bluray?
There was an error in creating the credits for the feature-length Redemption, yes. Unfortunately Whoopi Goldberg's credit was substituted for a (second) Timothy Carhart.
D'OH!!!
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Old August 4 2013, 09:45 PM   #582
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I'm sure it's been mentioned, but has anyone noticed that Timothy Carharts name appears twice in the credits on the "Redemption" bluray?
There was an error in creating the credits for the feature-length Redemption, yes. Unfortunately Whoopi Goldberg's credit was substituted for a (second) Timothy Carhart.
D'OH!!!
Oh that's awkward. Poor Whoopi.

I also find it odd that they included Denise Crosby in the credits. Somewhat dampens the surprise of her return.
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Old August 4 2013, 10:26 PM   #583
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You can see the big differences between the two
http://images.wikia.com/memoryalpha/...oot_models.jpg

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Ugh. Would it really have been that damn hard for them to use a thinner grade of plastic for the model? That's what ruins the look and lines of the ship the most. I can take the exaggerated lines and panels and such on it but look at the thickness of the deflector housing that's just fugly. I mean did they make the model out roofing tiles?

The deflector is completely different, and the shape of the secondary hull is really off from from the 6 footer.

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Old August 5 2013, 12:05 AM   #584
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Re: Season FOUR OFFICIAL TNG Blu-Ray Discussion Thread

And yet those of us who came to the show after the 4-footer was introduced find the 6 footer too thin, weak looking and far too brightly lit and undetailed.

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Old August 5 2013, 12:21 AM   #585
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You can see the big differences between the two
http://images.wikia.com/memoryalpha/...oot_models.jpg

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Ugh. Would it really have been that damn hard for them to use a thinner grade of plastic for the model? That's what ruins the look and lines of the ship the most. I can take the exaggerated lines and panels and such on it but look at the thickness of the deflector housing that's just fugly. I mean did they make the model out roofing tiles?

The deflector is completely different, and the shape of the secondary hull is really off from from the 6 footer.

-Chris
Oh, I know. There's a number of problems. I mean, ugh, how damn hard would it have been to make the damn model match the 6-footer? It's especially jarring in episodes where footage of BOTH models are used. Ugh.... TREKKER SMASH!
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