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Old May 3 2013, 06:19 AM   #151
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Guys, if you think that's crappy already, go listen how they raped the german version in those seconds... After that, you will be very pleased by what happened to the english one.
Huh, the BOBW blu-ray hasn't even been released in Germany. So what are you talking about? The VHS version from the 90s?
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Old May 3 2013, 07:33 AM   #152
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Guys, if you think that's crappy already, go listen how they raped the german version in those seconds... After that, you will be very pleased by what happened to the english one.
Huh, the BOBW blu-ray hasn't even been released in Germany. So what are you talking about? The VHS version from the 90s?
The UK release includes a German audio track.
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Old May 3 2013, 09:30 AM   #153
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Guys, if you think that's crappy already, go listen how they raped the german version in those seconds... After that, you will be very pleased by what happened to the english one.
Huh, the BOBW blu-ray hasn't even been released in Germany. So what are you talking about? The VHS version from the 90s?
It actually has been released in Germany but Paramount Germany released it in such a way, that nobody in Germany noticed it! The disc can be bought exclusively in Real Markt in Germany. I didn't believe it until someone posted a pic of his Blu-Ray in the german cinefacts.de forum. It didn't matter to me because I allready had received my UK-Version from zavvi.com.
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Old May 3 2013, 01:40 PM   #154
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That's right, got it in the Real Market yesterday.
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Old May 3 2013, 06:32 PM   #155
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Speaking of differences in music, there is something I noticed in the remastered BOBW Part II.

It seems the "Intervention" cue (when they take Picard back from the Borg ship) has been altered. In the original, the music starts after Riker finishes the line "Take your best shot, Locutus, because we are about to intervene." In the remastered, the music begins as he is saying that line. It then sounds like the cue is looped slightly when it cuts to Shelby so the rest of it plays out as it did.

This is such a minor thing, but it kind of trips up the sequence for me because, seriously, that part is one of my favorite things in all Star Trek and I've watched it a million times. It really freaks me out that the music starts in the wrong place.

Does anyone else notice this or am I being a super detailed obsessed Trek fan?
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Old May 3 2013, 09:41 PM   #156
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Don't remember it being that far off during the BOBW screening, but if they DID alter it then it's a stupid change.
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Old May 4 2013, 06:13 AM   #157
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Speaking of differences in music, there is something I noticed in the remastered BOBW Part II.

It seems the "Intervention" cue (when they take Picard back from the Borg ship) has been altered. In the original, the music starts after Riker finishes the line "Take your best shot, Locutus, because we are about to intervene." In the remastered, the music begins as he is saying that line. It then sounds like the cue is looped slightly when it cuts to Shelby so the rest of it plays out as it did.

This is such a minor thing, but it kind of trips up the sequence for me because, seriously, that part is one of my favorite things in all Star Trek and I've watched it a million times. It really freaks me out that the music starts in the wrong place.

Does anyone else notice this or am I being a super detailed obsessed Trek fan?
Yeah, they loop the section (and not with subtlety) at the cut to Shelby. Another thing that annoyed me about the music in the remaster was how it always seemed to fade out overly quickly during the end of acts, cutting the ends of notes off. Have no idea why they did that.

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Old May 4 2013, 03:38 PM   #158
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It actually has been released in Germany but Paramount Germany released it in such a way, that nobody in Germany noticed it! The disc can be bought exclusively in Real Markt in Germany. I didn't believe it until someone posted a pic of his Blu-Ray in the german cinefacts.de forum. It didn't matter to me because I allready had received my UK-Version from zavvi.com.
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That's right, got it in the Real Market yesterday.
Wow, you guys are absolutely right! I just purchased the disc at our local Marktkauf store. A guy at Real told me, they would get it on Monday. I'm looking forward to watching it tonight. Thanks for the heads-up!

This must be one of the most outlandish moves of Paramount/CBS Germany ever. In all my years as a fan I can't remember any release ever gone this unnoticed. I mean, even now Amazon.de isn't even listing it! This can't be a coincidence. What's the thinking behind this?

It's a shame, really, as this seems to be a really fine release. The package is rather neat, the price is okay and the content is great. So why make it such a secret?
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Old May 5 2013, 05:17 PM   #159
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One of my favourite eps from this season is Night Terrors, minus most of the Troi scenes. The scene with Dr Crusher in the cargo bay with the corpses sitting up around her was great. I thought the music track also wasn't as bland as the standard stuff being used in most eps at the time.

I still have the VHS I bought 20 years ago of this and Identity Crisis when the BBC stopped showing TNG for 2 years because they thought it wasn't worth it anymore. One of the few TNG VHS releases to get a 15 rating when most had PG or U.

Nth Degree, Brothers, Clues, and Devils Due are also favourites.
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Old May 5 2013, 06:16 PM   #160
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One of my favourite eps from this season is Night Terrors, minus most of the Troi scenes. The scene with Dr Crusher in the cargo bay with the corpses sitting up around her was great. I thought the music track also wasn't as bland as the standard stuff being used in most eps at the time.

I still have the VHS I bought 20 years ago of this and Identity Crisis when the BBC stopped showing TNG for 2 years because they thought it wasn't worth it anymore. One of the few TNG VHS releases to get a 15 rating when most had PG or U.

Nth Degree, Brothers, Clues, and Devils Due are also favourites.
The BBC stopped showing TNG because Sky bought the first run broadcast rights. I never really say this as a bad thing since the BBC were 3 years behind because they didn't start airing it until 1990.
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Old May 5 2013, 07:12 PM   #161
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Yeah, they loop the section (and not with subtlety) at the cut to Shelby. Another thing that annoyed me about the music in the remaster was how it always seemed to fade out overly quickly during the end of acts, cutting the ends of notes off. Have no idea why they did that.
I actually just posted about this in the Season 3 thread, before I saw this.

I wonder if the VHS version of the two episodes edited together had the audio this way?

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Old May 5 2013, 08:07 PM   #162
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Speaking of differences in music, there is something I noticed in the remastered BOBW Part II.

It seems the "Intervention" cue (when they take Picard back from the Borg ship) has been altered. In the original, the music starts after Riker finishes the line "Take your best shot, Locutus, because we are about to intervene." In the remastered, the music begins as he is saying that line. It then sounds like the cue is looped slightly when it cuts to Shelby so the rest of it plays out as it did.

This is such a minor thing, but it kind of trips up the sequence for me because, seriously, that part is one of my favorite things in all Star Trek and I've watched it a million times. It really freaks me out that the music starts in the wrong place.

Does anyone else notice this or am I being a super detailed obsessed Trek fan?
I had noticed that they looped the music but hadn't realised the music started earlier. Why would they do that? I was also annoyed by the early cut off of the music at commercial breaks. The scene where Picard announces they "have angaged the Borg" seems to fade out slightly earlier cutting off Ron Jones' music. I own the BoBW soundtrack and know it by heart and it also bugs me that its mangled by sloppy editing.
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Amazon UK have this up for pre-order for just £41 right now which is the lowest they've ever had one of these before release!
Thanks I just pre-ordered it. I'm stunned that at the price seeing as season 3 was £77 to pre-order before dropping to around £50.
I'm stunned as well, because Season 4 (according to the US Amazon) will cost $114.99, whereas Season 3 cost almost $40 less than that! What the hell's going on?
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Old May 5 2013, 10:14 PM   #164
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I was also annoyed by the early cut off of the music at commercial breaks. The scene where Picard announces they "have angaged the Borg" seems to fade out slightly earlier cutting off Ron Jones' music. I own the BoBW soundtrack and know it by heart and it also bugs me that its mangled by sloppy editing.
This in particularly drove me nuts because it's such an epic moment and having the music fade out like that is grating. I wonder if they did that to the version in the season 3 set. Can anyone confirm or deny?
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Old May 5 2013, 10:57 PM   #165
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Amazon UK have this up for pre-order for just £41 right now which is the lowest they've ever had one of these before release!
Thanks I just pre-ordered it. I'm stunned that at the price seeing as season 3 was £77 to pre-order before dropping to around £50.
I'm stunned as well, because Season 4 (according to the US Amazon) will cost $114.99, whereas Season 3 cost almost $40 less than that! What the hell's going on?
Perhaps CBS is seeing a return from their investment and doesn't feel the need to price upcoming seasons as high as they did seasons 1 and 2.
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