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Old April 24 2013, 01:59 PM   #1
Lt. Cheka Wey
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Insects and transporters

Do they make sure that there are no flying insects in the area before they beam somebody down to a planet?

It could be quite unpleasent if a fly would disrupt the process.

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Old April 24 2013, 02:24 PM   #2
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Re: Insects and transporters

They have to make sure there's no air where they beam people into - having air bubbles inside you when you materialize would be quite deadly!

So, there must exist some way for the transporter beam to push aside whatever matter there is at the destination. If this mechanism can push away air, any flying insects will automatically be removed as well.

If the matter is too much of an obstacle, the transportee will apparently be "rearranged" so that he nicely fits the available space. People standing straight on a transporter platform will materialize with one leg raised if there's a rock under that leg (say, ST2 and Chekov and Terrell's beam-down). Conversely, people lying on uneven ground will materialize lying flat on the level floor of the transporter after beaming up. So, if there's a really big insect at the beam-down spot, Kirk will materialize with his arm around its shoulders, not inside them!

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Old April 24 2013, 02:47 PM   #3
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Re: Insects and transporters

I think this is why they literally say pattern lock.

So if Picard beams down to a planet, only his physical parameters will be beamed up and nothing else. If there were some pathogens and/or microorganisms on his body, then I think the transporter system would recognise them and kill them.
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Old April 24 2013, 05:13 PM   #4
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One should hope they watch out for bugs!

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Old April 24 2013, 05:18 PM   #5
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Re: Insects and transporters

"Welcome back ensign... AHHHHHHH! AHHHHHHH! AHHHHHHH! Kill it now!!
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Old April 24 2013, 05:25 PM   #6
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As a kid, I lived in fear of a fly getting into the transporter beam.

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Old April 24 2013, 06:11 PM   #7
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Consider the episode Tuvix.

Tuvok, Neelix, one of Kes's lungs and a small plant all combine into a glop that walked and talked.


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Old April 24 2013, 07:22 PM   #8
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Lt. Cheka Wey wrote: View Post
Do they make sure that there are no flying insects in the area before they beam somebody down to a planet?

It could be quite unpleasent if a fly would disrupt the process.
Confinement beam. More often than not there is actually an idea behind tech speak.
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Old April 24 2013, 09:15 PM   #9
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Re: Insects and transporters

Anyone ever consider that a transporter disentigrates you and creates an identical copy of you at the destination? Technically anyone who has ever used a transporter is dead...replaced by a line of clones...if it wasnt so, then how do you explain Thomas Riker?
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Old April 24 2013, 10:38 PM   #10
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Re: Insects and transporters

If you've read James Blish's SPOCK MUST DIE, the opening chapter covers this exact transporter debate. McCoy's opinion is that he's been ''killed'' multiple times, while Scotty replies that a difference that makes no difference is no difference. But like the Kelvan belt devices, the transporter renders you temporarily nonexistent. If people have souls, which I believe, in both cases they have been stasised.
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Old April 24 2013, 10:42 PM   #11
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"Welcome back ensign... AHHHHHHH! AHHHHHHH! AHHHHHHH! Kill it now!!
That's specieist. That insect that you were going to kill, she is my first officer.
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Old April 24 2013, 11:15 PM   #12
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Anyone ever consider that a transporter disentigrates you and creates an identical copy of you at the destination? Technically anyone who has ever used a transporter is dead...replaced by a line of clones...if it wasnt so, then how do you explain Thomas Riker?
I remember my college buddies and I staying up to 3 AM one night debating this!
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Old April 24 2013, 11:39 PM   #13
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Re: Insects and transporters

Greg Cox wrote: View Post
As a kid, I lived in fear of a fly getting into the transporter beam.

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Old April 25 2013, 01:10 AM   #14
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YellowSubmarine wrote: View Post
T J wrote: View Post
"Welcome back ensign... AHHHHHHH! AHHHHHHH! AHHHHHHH! Kill it now!!
That's specieist. That insect that you were going to kill, she is my first officer.
Buggy creatures gotta die! Remember, it's the homo sapiens only club. Can you imagine the women screaming throughout the ship? Most of the girls I know freak out worse when they see a spider! And don't go near the galley when it's eating... ewwwww!
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Old April 25 2013, 02:33 AM   #15
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Anyone ever consider that a transporter disentigrates you and creates an identical copy of you at the destination?
Given the Federation's (supposed) highly ethical culture, routinely having people step into a device that ends their lives, makes no sense.

Regardless if a perfect copy is subsequently produce, the person who stepped in would be not just dead, but deliberately killed.

Riker and Pulaski didn't even want exact clones made of themselves when they would have continued to live.


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