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Star Trek Movies XI+ Discuss J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek here.

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Old April 23 2013, 04:02 PM   #16
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Re: The Definitive SPOILER Thread. Actual Spoilers.

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I like playing games with people. I'll confirm anything 100% if people specifically want to know, but I'll leave the rest hanging.
Do they actually bring Kirk back to life at the end using Khan's blood?
Good lord. You're evil.
It's what Kaz_Lucas implies at IMDB.

And this is the goddamned "Definitive I'll answer anything you ask SPOILER thread," right? How fucking oblique are we supposed to be in here?
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Old April 23 2013, 04:05 PM   #17
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Old April 23 2013, 04:05 PM   #18
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Old April 23 2013, 04:08 PM   #19
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Old April 23 2013, 04:08 PM   #20
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I have to say, as a plot-point that might be one of the stupidest things I've heard in a while. It's down there with the magic Cylon baby blood cancer cure from Battlestar Galactica.
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Old April 23 2013, 04:12 PM   #21
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Nah, it makes as much sense as most things in Star Trek - and frankly, a lot more than the kinds of reversals that used to happen in TOS (like, Scotty in "The Changeling," or Spock getting his vision back in "Obsession," or "oops, he's dead no we're joshing you" in "Amok Time," or Sargon hiding Kirk in Chapel (unfortunate way of putting it, I know)...you get the idea.

In fact, to the extent that it's tacky it's like an homage to the original series.
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Old April 23 2013, 04:14 PM   #22
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darn. If they were going to reverse TWoK, They should've made a reverse "The Search for Kirk" too. That way, JJ has no reason not to cast Bill.
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Old April 23 2013, 04:14 PM   #23
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I have to say, as a plot-point that might be one of the stupidest things I've heard in a while. It's down there with the magic Cylon baby blood cancer cure from Battlestar Galactica.
No doubt, that is exactly what i was thinking.


So, now villain is British and has magic blood? Wow, sign me up for the Blu-Ray, because my theater tickets just got refunded.

If these early bird synopsis are indeed correct, then they revealed about 90% of the plot in the trailers anyway, so I don't even feel that spoiled.
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Old April 23 2013, 04:16 PM   #24
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So, now Khan is British and has magic blood?
That's a problem, because everyone knows Khan is Mexican.
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Old April 23 2013, 04:18 PM   #25
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Much more of the internals of the ship are seen. There are still Budweiser Factory internals, but this is just one part of many new Engineering sets which look much more 23rd century. You'll love it.

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Old April 23 2013, 04:23 PM   #26
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So, now Khan is British and has magic blood?
That's a problem, because everyone knows Khan is Mexican.
They could have at least given Cumberpatch a spray-on tan.
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Old April 23 2013, 04:24 PM   #27
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So, now Khan is British and has magic blood?
That's a problem, because everyone knows Khan is Mexican.
They could have at least given Cumberpatch a spray-on tan.
Puh-lease.
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Old April 23 2013, 04:25 PM   #28
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Damon Lindlelof trend:

If there's a secondary blond female character in one of his TV shows or films, she will have a secret paternal reveal that's treated as shocking but is ultimately unimportant or could have been known all along without any major difference.

Clair <> Jack's father in Lost
Charlize Theron <> Shitty makeup Guy Pierce in Prometheus
Carol Wallace nee Marcus <> Admiral Robocop in STiD

I mean, maybe it comes off as some bigger reveal in the movie itself, but since we already knew who she was for months now and since it doesn't sound like it would make much of a difference to the plot of the film if she was known as Carol Marcus all along, it just seems like a pointless thing to conceal.

It comes across like he keeps trying to have a big Darth Vader parental reveal but can't make it work.
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Old April 23 2013, 04:26 PM   #29
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"Khan" is never referred to as Khan Noonien Singh anywhere in the film...

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Old April 23 2013, 04:26 PM   #30
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Nah, it makes as much sense as most things in Star Trek - and frankly, a lot more than the kinds of reversals that used to happen in TOS (like, Scotty in "The Changeling," or Spock getting his vision back in "Obsession," or "oops, he's dead no we're joshing you" in "Amok Time," or Sargon hiding Kirk in Chapel (unfortunate way of putting it, I know)...you get the idea.
Lord. Don't remind me. The "death is cheap" trope could make me perfectly happy by never showing up again.

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In fact, to the extent that it's tacky it's like an homage to the original series.
By homaging the worst tendencies of the original? Well, whatever floats your boat I guess.
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