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Old April 24 2013, 01:14 AM   #16
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I think there could be several possible reasons it worked for Tuvok. He's older and more experienced in Vulcan disciplines. He doesn't need to do the combat ritual, he just needs to get his rocks off.
Combat is not necessary for pon farr. It only occurred in Spock's case because T'Pring refused him.

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haha! I should've written "Tuvok and Vorik"... forgot that the / is commonly used to indicate a pairing... But actually, now I'm thinking, if the prospective partner doesn't absolutely have to be a Vulcan, do they absolutely have to be a female?
Not according to the thousands of Kirk/Spock fanfic stories.

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A gay Vulcan almost sounds like mutually exclusive terms, depending on the definition of gay.
Some people are so sheltered when it comes to fanfic...

I'm not into the K/S subgenre of fanfic per se... I've read stories of varying quality, and I have to say that the absolute most disturbing "Spock goes through pon farr" story I ever read was when Spock was on a scientific expedition with his daughter, his wife was not there, and they were stranded on the planet. Spock ran out of time and his teenage daughter volunteered because it was the "logical" thing to do.
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Old April 24 2013, 01:29 AM   #17
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Old April 24 2013, 02:02 AM   #18
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A gay Vulcan almost sounds like mutually exclusive terms, depending on the definition of gay.
Some people are so sheltered when it comes to fanfic...
I wasn't referring to fanfic, and I saw some of the raunchy early stuff when buying just about anything I saw at my first con in 1974. Or maybe you're misinterpreting my comment.
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Old April 24 2013, 02:22 AM   #19
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Peter David had a gay Vulcan in his New Frontier novels.

He mated out of season, Dr. Selar's brother, but I don't recall them telling me what happened when he hit the seven year itch... Of course I once read in a novel that the only reasons that Romulans don't go through pon far is that they have sex when ever they want and never create any seven year long dry spell.

of course Vulcans full up a planet and Romulans full up an empire, so it's clear that they breed lots.

However it's also been sid that the psychic powers are attached to the sexual chastity and logical focus... Which was kinda blown out of the water with al that Kirshara/melders are filthy abominations bunk in Enterprise.

So any Romulan that chose to go without sex until his body tries to commit suicide with get telepathic powers?

Then there's the question of life span?

Does the process of logical focus increase their life span or does pon far which is the equivalence of 15 heart attack in a single week, every seven years dramatically shorten their time in the universe... Romulans couldlive for 4 or five hundred years?
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Old April 24 2013, 02:38 AM   #20
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A gay Vulcan almost sounds like mutually exclusive terms, depending on the definition of gay.
Some people are so sheltered when it comes to fanfic...
I wasn't referring to fanfic, and I saw some of the raunchy early stuff when buying just about anything I saw at my first con in 1974. Or maybe you're misinterpreting my comment.
Ooh, aren't we cranky today!

Your comment sounded like you couldn't imagine a gay Vulcan. I'm just saying it's not hard to imagine at all.
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Old April 24 2013, 02:55 AM   #21
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Ooh, aren't we cranky today!
I'm cranky every day. Comes from neighbor kids screaming, shrieking, and making loud noises right outside my apartment from sunup to past sundown. And I'm out of caffeine.

Your comment sounded like you couldn't imagine a gay Vulcan.
Well that's why I mentioned definitions. I was using the term as in gay=happy, joyful and not specifically sexuality.
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Old April 24 2013, 03:51 AM   #22
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Ooh, aren't we cranky today!
I'm cranky every day. Comes from neighbor kids screaming, shrieking, and making loud noises right outside my apartment from sunup to past sundown. And I'm out of caffeine.
I've got one of those just down the hall. Thank goodness she only shrieks outside my door twice a day.
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Old April 24 2013, 04:04 AM   #23
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If there was an apocalypse and you were the only one left alive on earth you would miss these noises, you would grow misty eyed thinking of the promise of life and future the sounds of young people once spoke of.
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Old April 24 2013, 04:40 AM   #24
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If there was an apocalypse and you were the only one left alive on earth you would miss these noises, you would grow misty eyed thinking of the promise of life and future the sounds of young people once spoke of.
Actually, I'd be like Burgess Meredith in that Twilight Zone episode "Time Enough at Last", gathering everything I want to read or watch, and then losing my eyeglasses.
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No.

No I wouldn't.

The Quiet Earth or Night of the Comet?

There's a Zombieland TV show that started the other night and they were sad and lonely that there were no other LIVING people when they blew up a fireworks factory and it didn't make them significantly happy.
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Old April 24 2013, 05:51 AM   #26
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Does anyone know what that probably made for tv but maybe not movie was from the 70's where everyone just disappears other than a small group of people and in their place is left their clothes?
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Does anyone know what that probably made for tv but maybe not movie was from the 70's where everyone just disappears other than a small group of people and in their place is left their clothes?

Was it Where Have All the People Gone?

I've got some movies from the 70s where clothing disappears, leaving behind only people.
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Old April 24 2013, 06:13 AM   #28
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I saw something far more recently were the annoying Christian went to the toilet and everyone else in the dinner hid after throwing a wad of clothes from the lost and found to hold their places, to fake the Rapture.

Possibly Glee adjacent?
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Does anyone know what that probably made for tv but maybe not movie was from the 70's where everyone just disappears other than a small group of people and in their place is left their clothes?

Was it Where Have All the People Gone?the 70s where clothing disappears, leaving behind only people.
Yes it is!!! I saw that when I was a kid and I was terrified. It was on during the day and I was home alone and it made me feel so very awful.

The people all disappear wearing only their clothes and some white powder and all the animals go mad and vicious!

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072400/
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I saw something far more recently were the annoying Christian went to the toilet and everyone else in the dinner hid after throwing a wad of clothes from the lost and found to hold their places, to fake the Rapture.

Possibly Glee adjacent?
Wasn't there a 6 Feet Under ep taking the piss out of the rapture? Something about a blow up sex doll floating heavenward.
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