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Old March 3 2014, 11:04 AM   #106
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A ships vault in that capacity would have been used for commerce and creating diplomatic relationships with alien governments (as a prelude to invasion?)... Or immediate trade for unforeseen deficiencies in the ships resources, like antiradiation medicine.

Money is softley, softley before whoever was supposed to be Captain starts warming up the main guns.

On Enteprise the Ferengi could not imagine how Enterprise wouldn't have a vault... 2 years later, Archer had to strip the ships plumbing for platinum to pay off some despot when he was in a stupid crunch to destroy the Xindi.
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Old March 3 2014, 02:40 PM   #107
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- Gareth Thomas looks very old now I know he is, but given Darrows actually a couple of years older and Greif is, I believe, the same age as Gareth he looked and acted a lot older than both of them, and kept hanging his head a lot in the panel, I did wonder if hed nodded off at some points!
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Probably why he sounds so unlike Blake-like in the Liberator chronicles. Saw him in a episode of Midsommer Murders some years back and he seem to be carrying a bit of weight.
- Im not sure if theres any history between the two Travises, but whenever Croucher was talking I was watching Greif and his body language was interesting to say the least. Greif comes across very thoughtful and articulate, Croucher is very much like he appears on screen, and he claimed he didnt understand the scripts much!
I've read some comments in the past on Brian Croucher at conventions and well they weren't pretty.

Given how Travis ended up I wonder if Stephen Grief wishes he stayed on or his decision to leave was the right one. Also if memory serves he was/is friends with Paul Darrow and Paul mentioned the role to him when it first came up.

And if anyone is interested, there's an audio documentary floating about call "Travis, the final act" which looks at the character both on screen and behind the scenes.
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Old March 3 2014, 04:17 PM   #108
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Gareth Thomas is definitely carrying a bit too much weight, but I'm won't castigate him for that because I've done the same myself from time to time and the older you get the harder it can be to keep your weight down.
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Old March 3 2014, 08:57 PM   #109
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The system don’t seem the type to be interested in the spoils of war. It’s interesting because if I remember correctly Liberator has only just been involved in a battle when it encounters the London (although to be fair I guess it could have been drifting for decades for all we know and it just drifted through the battle)
There's never a timeframe established, but it's assumed one season of the show equates to one year of real time.

That said, DSV1 (or whatever that other ship was) was of the same design lineage as the Liberator; even after a few years you might expect some changes so I'd guess the Liberator was only recently lost to the System.

It's possible the System used human 'hosts' to pilot the vessels, which would necessitate a wardrobe of clothing. Would also explain why they abandoned the ship prior to being found by the System; a Borg-like drone would stay right till the end. It's also possible they were ordered off the ship by Zen for safety reasons, considering he did the same thing to our heroes in 'Aftermath'.

On Spaceworld we only saw the two Alta as computer controlled drones; the slaves were quite human looking. Even the guards seem to behave like humans being given orders, even though we never saw their faces.
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Old March 3 2014, 11:01 PM   #110
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It's possible the System used human 'hosts' to pilot the vessels, which would necessitate a wardrobe of clothing. Would also explain why they abandoned the ship prior to being found by the System; a Borg-like drone would stay right till the end. It's also possible they were ordered off the ship by Zen for safety reasons, considering he did the same thing to our heroes in 'Aftermath'.
Wasn't there an alien presence on board the Liberator when Blake & Co first bordered her that played mind games with people.

It's possible that it could have lead to the crew going made and taking themselves out or I guess Zen could have ordered them off.

Can't remember if there were any comments about escape pods unaccounted for.
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Old March 4 2014, 12:05 AM   #111
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The problem I had with the wardrobe is the massive schism in design.

On a star fleet ship (On a US Aircraft carrier today!) there would have been four choices of uniform. basically the same design, except in different colours and different sizes (yes and mini dresses if it's TOS era.). It's about function and establishing identity and uniformity.

Are we supposed to believe that the endless Lady Gagaesque parade of outfits that wardrobe produced were all "Uniforms" that each denoted class, rank, and area to which that crew is servicing the ship by a meritocracy created by the system?

Also, if they were uniforms, there would have been dozens or hundred of copies of the same "costume" available for wear, but they NEVER all/some of them wore the same thing, even on different days.

Imagine if Villa and Avon wore the same thing to work on the command deck one morning?

(Then it may have been the espionage section where the spies go to get their under cover clothes to infiltrate the next civilization on the list of nearby civilizations to infiltrate.)
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Old March 4 2014, 12:12 AM   #112
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Maybe the clothing was for Away Teams to blend in with the natives. If you were doing the series now they would probably have machines that acted like advanced 3D printers that made clothing as instructed.
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Old March 4 2014, 01:16 AM   #113
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Left overs from past missions?

So they didn't find the wardrobe, they found the dirty linen hamper?
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Old March 4 2014, 01:38 AM   #114
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Wasn't there an alien presence on board the Liberator when Blake & Co first bordered her that played mind games with people.

It's possible that it could have lead to the crew going made and taking themselves out or I guess Zen could have ordered them off.

Can't remember if there were any comments about escape pods unaccounted for.
That was an automated defense system to ward off intruders. Blake's mental conditioning was able to avoid being influenced by it. It appeared again in 'Dawn of the Gods'. Basically it's highly unlikely it would attack it's own crew.

Avon mentions life rocket launch control has been activated whilst investigating the flight deck in 'Space Fall'.
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Wasn't there an alien presence on board the Liberator when Blake & Co first bordered her that played mind games with people.

It's possible that it could have lead to the crew going made and taking themselves out or I guess Zen could have ordered them off.

Can't remember if there were any comments about escape pods unaccounted for.
That was an automated defense system to ward off intruders. Blake's mental conditioning was able to avoid being influenced by it. It appeared again in 'Dawn of the Gods'. Basically it's highly unlikely it would attack it's own crew.

Avon mentions life rocket launch control has been activated whilst investigating the flight deck in 'Space Fall'.
Yea, as unlikely as it is, it even leaves room for "someone" to have left Liberator there for him, or arranged for such, "Knowing" what he would become in the Fight against The Federation (Though obviously more likely the crew bailed in what turned out to a convenient time and place for Blake, et al.)

Damn, I'm within a hair's breath of stopping my Doctor Who Run (Started Pertwee a couple months back and now up to T. Baker Horror of Fang Rock) to watch Blake's 7 again.
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Old March 4 2014, 02:30 AM   #116
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There is the audio play Escape Velocity which details the events leading up to the discovery of the Liberator in 'Space Fall'. I'm trying to get hold of a copy as I know next to nothing about it.
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Old March 4 2014, 02:34 AM   #117
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B02: SHADOW

The first non-Nation script is good (it's a Boucher script so naturally...) but Orac's abilities continue to border on the supernatural. The Terra Nostra storyline is entertaining, as is the portrayal of the harsh brutality of drug use. Cally's storyline just seems to be there to pad out the episode, and gets in the way of the main plot. Blake is starting to switch from freedom fighter to fanatic...
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Old March 4 2014, 02:35 AM   #118
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Damn, I'm within a hair's breath of stopping my Doctor Who Run (Started Pertwee a couple months back and now up to T. Baker Horror of Fang Rock) to watch Blake's 7 again.
At least I only have 52 episodes to get through!
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There is the audio play Escape Velocity which details the events leading up to the discovery of the Liberator in 'Space Fall'. I'm trying to get hold of a copy as I know next to nothing about it.
It was made by B7 Productions who did the re-imagined Blakes 7 radio dramas.

Basically it works on the premise from the radio drama that original crew of the Liberator was "conditioned" with their individuality supressed.

But one day some-one starts to remember and it leads to a mutiny.

To slot it into the original continuity it would fit into Redemption after the System recaptured the Liberator in Redemption.
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Damn, I'm within a hair's breath of stopping my Doctor Who Run (Started Pertwee a couple months back and now up to T. Baker Horror of Fang Rock) to watch Blake's 7 again.
At least I only have 52 episodes to get through!
Well, that's all I'll have, too, once I make the switch



I watch DVD sets as background, if I've seen it before. So, I'll get through at least 2-4 episodes a Day of B7
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