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Star Trek Movies XI+ Discuss J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek here.

View Poll Results: Grade the movie...
A+ 144 19.20%
A 161 21.47%
A- 101 13.47%
B+ 83 11.07%
B 59 7.87%
B- 27 3.60%
C+ 40 5.33%
C 38 5.07%
C- 25 3.33%
D+ 11 1.47%
D 13 1.73%
D- 10 1.33%
F 38 5.07%
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Old April 30 2013, 04:27 PM   #751
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Re: STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS - Grading & Discussion [SPOILERS]

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Evidently James Cawley spoiled the Khan thing on his Facebook timeline a little while ago and there's a big fan kerfluffle over it.
Is that what prompted this short video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO1nvmDjofo
Look like James Cawley don't know how to restored the time line.
To restore the time line. You have to prevent the person that cost it, from costing it in the first place.
It's all Future Guy fault. If he haven't use a Federation starship to distroy the Romulan sun? We wouldn't be in this mess in the first place.
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Old April 30 2013, 04:31 PM   #752
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Re: STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS - Grading & Discussion [SPOILERS]

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Is that what prompted this short video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO1nvmDjofo
that was funny
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Old April 30 2013, 05:07 PM   #753
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Old April 30 2013, 05:10 PM   #754
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I think Cawley's approach is extreme, and reflects poorly on him as a person.
I'm very disappointed in Mr Cawley's seemingly total and angry rejection of Bad Robot's most recent effort, especially after JJ Abrams made him a part of the 2009 movie, IIRC - and "New Voyages"/"Phase II" itself had come under some very unfair and scathing criticisms from sections of Star Trek fandom, especially in its fledgling years, from fans who seemed to be jealous of the effort "New Voyages" were putting into their fanfilms when Jim's team first started - and I defended their right, as Star Trek fans, to make the episodes they wanted to be in, and to star in them themselves, despite the fact that many of the actors were fans and not professionally-trained. Their recent efforts have been incredible!

As soon as I read Jim's first public rant on rumours/facts he'd heard about "Into Darkness", I stopped dropping into his sites as often, because it made me feel so uneasy. Surely there's room in Star Trek fandom for many interpretations: Jim's fanfilm episodes, the amateur series and one-offs being made by many other groups, fanfic and fan art, the licensed tie-in games, books and comics, and Bad Robot's new timeline stuff. We don't have to love it all, but neither should we be so dismissive of others putting their own stamp on a little corner of the franchise.
I'm not surprised. It's time someone threw a Bad Tantrum in response to Bad Reboot.

OK sorry, sorry
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Old April 30 2013, 05:40 PM   #755
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Re: STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS - Grading & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Another review, Stuff.nz

4.5/5

http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment...-Into-Darkness

Spoilers in that review so beware
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Old April 30 2013, 05:41 PM   #756
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Another one:

http://www.gayexpress.co.nz/2013/04/...into-darkness/

Star Trek Into Darkness may well set the benchmark for rollercoaster sci-fi that will indeed challenge your view of how space adventures can and should be delivered.
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Old April 30 2013, 06:04 PM   #757
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Both Pine and Pegg has described the action in the new film relentless. That doesn't sound good for those wanting more than mindless action.
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Old April 30 2013, 06:10 PM   #758
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drumvan wrote: View Post
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Is that what prompted this short video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO1nvmDjofo
that was funny
I always thought it was totally ruined when the Phase II actors appeared.

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Old April 30 2013, 06:13 PM   #759
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I just want strong characters in an action/adventure/scifi setting

(The premise of Star Trek)
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Old April 30 2013, 06:46 PM   #760
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Both Pine and Pegg has described the action in the new film relentless. That doesn't sound good for those wanting more than mindless action.
That's why it's important to worry and prejudge movies based on what people say to the press rather than watching the movie.
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Old April 30 2013, 06:50 PM   #761
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[That's why it's important to worry and prejudge movies based on what people say to the press rather than watching the movie.
How about we let the people who've already seen it contradict or expand on what the actors are saying, rather than attacking someone pointing out what they said.
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Old April 30 2013, 06:51 PM   #762
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Both Pine and Pegg has described the action in the new film relentless. That doesn't sound good for those wanting more than mindless action.
That's why it's important to worry and prejudge movies based on what people say to the press rather than watching the movie.
That's fandom's raison d'etre, isn't it?
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Old April 30 2013, 07:11 PM   #763
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How about we let the people who've already seen it contradict or expand on what the actors are saying, rather than attacking someone pointing out what they said.
How about we stop drawing conclusions that aren't in any way justified by what they said? To describe the film's action as "relentless" in no way suggests that there's nothing more to the movie than action. That's just putting the most negative and pessimistic spin on a statement that can be put on it, and that's truly sad.

If pointing that out makes you feel "attacked" - well, that's not my concern.

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It is truly great to see Pine and Quinto have so much fun with it. For whole new generation these are the only actors to have played the iconic characters.

"Bones" McCoy was equally as integral to the original Star Trek, and Abrams gives our own Karl Urban plenty to do in Into Darkness but it would have been more faithful to the source to make this film about the classic triumvirate of the three characters.

Much is made, too, of Uhura's (Zoe Saldana) relationship with Spock - something only hinted at in one episode of the original series - The Man Trap.

In fact Uhura, who broke new ground in the 1960s as a black woman officer, gets plenty of action hero stuff to do in this film. Star Trek's late creator Gene Roddenberry would have approved.
Nice.
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Old April 30 2013, 07:27 PM   #764
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James Cawley: Indepedently Wealthy Fanboi.

That was just dumb.
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Old April 30 2013, 08:41 PM   #765
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ConRefit79 wrote: View Post
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Evidently James Cawley spoiled the Khan thing on his Facebook timeline a little while ago and there's a big fan kerfluffle over it.
Is that what prompted this short video?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO1nvmDjofo
The date on the YouTube clip is from last July, so it seems unlikely.


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Both Pine and Pegg has described the action in the new film relentless. That doesn't sound good for those wanting more than mindless action.
That's why it's important to worry and prejudge movies based on what people say to the press rather than watching the movie.
How about we let the people who've already seen it contradict or expand on what the actors are saying, rather than attacking someone pointing out what they said.
I see no attack here (unless your translation of "relentless" into "mindless action" was somehow intended thus) and if ever you feel you actually are being attacked, I'd prefer you use the button on the post in question rather than making accusations in-thread.
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