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Star Trek Movies XI+ Discuss J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek here.

View Poll Results: Grade the movie...
A+ 139 19.39%
A 157 21.90%
A- 98 13.67%
B+ 77 10.74%
B 58 8.09%
B- 27 3.77%
C+ 38 5.30%
C 37 5.16%
C- 23 3.21%
D+ 11 1.53%
D 13 1.81%
D- 6 0.84%
F 33 4.60%
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Old May 25 2013, 08:30 PM   #3646
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Re: STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS - Grading & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Woah. Just returned from seeing the movie again. I'm glad I did. Plot makes more sense now that I know what I'm looking for. We enjoyed it very much (me and the wife).

And I couldn't spot anything besides the impulse deck and nacelle fins that are different at the end. We didn't get to see the deflector, however, the only other thing that was massively damaged in the movie.
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Old May 25 2013, 08:49 PM   #3647
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And I couldn't spot anything besides the impulse deck and nacelle fins that are different at the end. We didn't get to see the deflector, however, the only other thing that was massively damaged in the movie.
There is this:

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Old May 25 2013, 08:51 PM   #3648
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Re: STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS - Grading & Discussion [SPOILERS]

I just saw STID and I loved it.

I do find myself hoping that they don't use Khan again for awhile, though. Let him stay a popsicle. He got what he deserved, in the end.
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Old May 25 2013, 09:02 PM   #3649
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And I couldn't spot anything besides the impulse deck and nacelle fins that are different at the end. We didn't get to see the deflector, however, the only other thing that was massively damaged in the movie.
There is this:

Broken link.

EDIT: Not sure I see it properly. Is that an added detail on there ? Anyway, very minor.
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Old May 25 2013, 09:03 PM   #3650
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Saw the NIF chamber for the warp core http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Ignition_Facility
Thanks for the link! It's almost an engineering deck plan, like in the old Star Trek Fact Files
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Old May 25 2013, 09:22 PM   #3651
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Re: STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS - Grading & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Who wants to bet that the next time khan is taken out of cold storage, it's because KIRK needs him and needs to make a deal with the devil?
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Old May 25 2013, 09:35 PM   #3652
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I went to to see this last week as my 'birthday treat', and if i'm totaly honest I was massivly disapointed
It's not so much that it was bad, just the fact that there was soooooo much missing!

If this is Star Trek for a new generation, where were the back storys?

I found it as entertaining as i did frustrating lol
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Old May 25 2013, 09:38 PM   #3653
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Where was the back story in TOS ?
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Old May 25 2013, 09:54 PM   #3654
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You want backstory? Read the comics. Read the apps. (I am probably missing something.)

In this new age of entertainment, the people involved are expecting that people have a familiarity with other products, so as to have a fuller story of what is happening. If you did what they expected, you would have read a comic series and played a video game, and two references in the movie would not have come out of the blue. They are awarding you for your loyalty to the brand with these Easter eggs.

There are surprises in the comics. According to one issue, this Federation in the alternate universe achieved what the one in the prime hadn't done by 2260. The Federation spans 8,000 light years and has 150 members.
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Old May 25 2013, 10:29 PM   #3655
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^I just take that to mean that Federation-Prime has been stagnant for 100 years. It's something I can very easily imagine, going by Picard's ultra-pretentious monologues during early TNG.
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Old May 25 2013, 10:53 PM   #3656
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Khan's a monster but he's also supposed to be a super-genius...
"Wile E. Coyote. Super-Genius."

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In fact, that type of conflict is what TNG worked very well in, it's entertaining to watch, and we remind ourselves that there are more than one way to be "right", and maybe we all have it a little "wrong".
As hard to write it here as it is for the guys writing for TV.

I do get weirded out by the odd accusation that my various (I thought innocent) posts reveal my "hidden agenda". So hidden, it's even hidden from myself. Still never worked that one out.

And yes, it's also tricky if you've been living with a ST truism for four decades and you finally find out it's not necessarily the only interpretation. Or when an innocent typographical error in the ST Encyclopedia becames a mandated change because novel authors of a particular era were told to use the ST Encyclopedia as the definitive guide for all spellings.

But that's all part of the fun of being in a fandom.

I disliked "ST V: The Final Frontier" and a lot of early DS9 and VOY, but I stuck with them through (often) multiple viewings because even really "bad" ST can have little gems to enjoy - and most ST withstands repeat viewings, with new insights waiting to be discovered.

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As far as their discussions on "needless" fan service: I enjoy the nods. To the casual movie-goer, they don't register as such. But if you are a long time fan, they are there for our "enjoyment".
Always a no-win scenario for the writers.

Had STiD had few or no easter eggs whatsoever, you can bet this board would be maligning Bad Robot for "lost opportunities".

* "You could have toyed with the fans more by giving Carol Marcus a hairstyle that immediately reminded us of a previous canon character, such as Elizabeth Dehner!"

* "That trader vessel could have been confiscated from a known trader, such as... Harry Mudd. Or his daughter. Or some K'Normians from TMP."

* "Talking about traders, you could have dropped a hint about Cyrano Jones' wherabouts. And he could have brought on board... tribbles!"

* "You could have been really brave and made John Harrison reveal that he was... Khan!"
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Old May 26 2013, 01:17 AM   #3657
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And I couldn't spot anything besides the impulse deck and nacelle fins that are different at the end. We didn't get to see the deflector, however, the only other thing that was massively damaged in the movie.
There is this:

Broken link.

EDIT: Not sure I see it properly. Is that an added detail on there ? Anyway, very minor.
Not that minor. The dome structure above the bridge-deck is much more visible from this back view now after the refit.
Compare it with a shot from '09 where it is nearly flush with the structure behind it:

http://movies.trekcore.com/gallery/a...ekxihd1006.jpg

I not 100 % sure, but I think they changed the height of the bridge-deck for that refit. Or something else.
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Old May 26 2013, 01:53 AM   #3658
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Yeah I saw that after my edit. Maybe another starship simulator on the BluRay so we can check.
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Old May 26 2013, 02:04 AM   #3659
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I hope there are interviews with the ILM guys soon. I'd love to know what else they changed.
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Old May 26 2013, 02:08 AM   #3660
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I hope there are interviews with the ILM guys soon. I'd love to know what else they changed.
FXGUIDE.com has already got article, interview & podcast up. I don't think CINEFEX comes out for another month. No mention of anything interesting FXwise in the icgmagazine.com piece.
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