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Old September 11 2013, 05:13 PM   #76
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Re: Kirk Enterprise - the Enterprise(a)?

It's got lighting, which none of the other models have. Also, the hull plating and window locations are a bit off for the TOS Enterprise so if it's a real model it's not an off-the-shelf kit.

In fact, that saucer hull plating does look suspiciously like CG bump mapping to me, and the angle of the shadow on the green running light seems wrong for a model shot indoors.

Of course, it being CG doesn't necessarily mean it's a fake. It may have simply been easer to put a CG ship there than to hang a real, lit model.
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Old September 11 2013, 05:57 PM   #77
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The image was supposedly taken from the Xbox SmartGlass app

http://blogs.windows.com/windows/b/w...-darkness.aspx
There's nothing in that link to prove the legitimacy of that photo.
I don't want to be that guy but there's no evidence to say that it isn't legit, except for the fact that you don't seem to like it.

Which is not much of a reason really is it, I doubt it is some Photoshop conspiracy as you seem to think.
I'm not trying to suggest a conspiracy. As outlined in my post, it looks fake and doesn't match the facts. Show me 100% proof positive that it is authentic and I'll shut up on the matter. Otherwise, I stand by my opinion.
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Old September 11 2013, 07:46 PM   #78
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There's nothing in that link to prove the legitimacy of that photo.
I don't want to be that guy but there's no evidence to say that it isn't legit, except for the fact that you don't seem to like it.

Which is not much of a reason really is it, I doubt it is some Photoshop conspiracy as you seem to think.
I'm not trying to suggest a conspiracy. As outlined in my post, it looks fake and doesn't match the facts. Show me 100% proof positive that it is authentic and I'll shut up on the matter. Otherwise, I stand by my opinion.
It can't be proven or disproven yet and it doesn't really matter either way to me, I just find it strange that you wasted no time in saying it was fake when you have no evidence to prove it.

Which makes me think you are saying its fake because you don't like what it represents.

Which facts does it not match?
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Old September 11 2013, 07:57 PM   #79
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Which makes me think you are saying its fake because you don't like what it represents.

Which facts does it not match?
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Old September 12 2013, 03:06 AM   #80
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I don't want to be that guy but there's no evidence to say that it isn't legit, except for the fact that you don't seem to like it.

Which is not much of a reason really is it, I doubt it is some Photoshop conspiracy as you seem to think.
I'm not trying to suggest a conspiracy. As outlined in my post, it looks fake and doesn't match the facts. Show me 100% proof positive that it is authentic and I'll shut up on the matter. Otherwise, I stand by my opinion.
It can't be proven or disproven yet and it doesn't really matter either way to me, I just find it strange that you wasted no time in saying it was fake when you have no evidence to prove it.
I was stating an opinion that it looked fake. Hell, I'm almost certain that's an image of the Enterprise taken from a TOSR episode and inserted there. Unfortunately, searches are turning up negative. So far.

And besides, it's generally preferred around here that when you post something like that, you provide proof of its legitimacy so that no one needs to question it.

Which makes me think you are saying its fake because you don't like what it represents.
Now what the fuck is that supposed to mean? What does this "represent" that I'm not supposed to like?

Which facts does it not match?
If I'm right and it is CG (which it certainly looks) than there's the fact that deleted scenes don't usually have any kind of visual effects. And the fact that Abrams traditionally doesn't insert anything digitally to a scene unless it's required to move the story. Why would Marcus have a huge model hanging from his ceiling instead of with the other models on his desk? Why does it have the same name and registry of another ship seen in the movie?
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Old September 12 2013, 03:39 AM   #81
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Why would Marcus have a huge model hanging from his ceiling instead of with the other models on his desk? Why does it have the same name and registry of another ship seen in the movie?
So I've been wondering: not much has been established about the starship with registry NCC-0718, canonically speaking...
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Old September 12 2013, 03:45 AM   #82
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The Wormhole wrote: View Post
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I'm not trying to suggest a conspiracy. As outlined in my post, it looks fake and doesn't match the facts. Show me 100% proof positive that it is authentic and I'll shut up on the matter. Otherwise, I stand by my opinion.
It can't be proven or disproven yet and it doesn't really matter either way to me, I just find it strange that you wasted no time in saying it was fake when you have no evidence to prove it.
I was stating an opinion that it looked fake. Hell, I'm almost certain that's an image of the Enterprise taken from a TOSR episode and inserted there. Unfortunately, searches are turning up negative. So far.

And besides, it's generally preferred around here that when you post something like that, you provide proof of its legitimacy so that no one needs to question it.

Which makes me think you are saying its fake because you don't like what it represents.
Now what the fuck is that supposed to mean? What does this "represent" that I'm not supposed to like?

Which facts does it not match?
If I'm right and it is CG (which it certainly looks) than there's the fact that deleted scenes don't usually have any kind of visual effects. And the fact that Abrams traditionally doesn't insert anything digitally to a scene unless it's required to move the story. Why would Marcus have a huge model hanging from his ceiling instead of with the other models on his desk? Why does it have the same name and registry of another ship seen in the movie?
The name and registry aside, it might be that whatever that ship personally important to Marcus first or last command.
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Old September 12 2013, 03:51 AM   #83
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Why would Marcus have a huge model hanging from his ceiling instead of with the other models on his desk? Why does it have the same name and registry of another ship seen in the movie?
So I've been wondering: not much has been established about the starship with registry NCC-0718, canonically speaking...
Ah ha, I see what you did there.
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Old September 12 2013, 07:23 AM   #84
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Why is July 18 important to J.J.?
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Old September 12 2013, 10:45 AM   #85
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Or it could mean July of 1918.
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Old September 12 2013, 01:24 PM   #86
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Area code?
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Old September 12 2013, 04:18 PM   #87
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Looks iffy to me. Will wait and see if it's confirmed.
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Old September 13 2013, 01:59 AM   #88
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Area code?
You might be onto something. 718 is the area code of New York City, which is where Abrams was born. Don't know why he stuck the zero there.

For that matter, why use the New York area code for a ship named after a city in Maine? USS Biddeford's registry should be NCC-207. Or NCC-0207 if we have to do things the Abrams way.
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Old September 19 2013, 12:45 AM   #89
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Well the ship that registry already in the movie has the TOS Colour Scheme of White with Orange Bussards, maybe they reused the texture for that model.

Also its a deleted scene the SFX could be incomplete.
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Old September 19 2013, 03:21 AM   #90
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So it's been over a week, has anyone else seen this scene or not? Should Senator Vreenak be making an appearance?
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