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Old May 24 2014, 06:26 PM   #136
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Re: Your own personal continuity

Mine:
  • Robert April and Christopher Pike commanded the Enterprise before James Kirk
  • Kirk chose Willard Decker as his successor following the five-year mission based on a strong recommendation by Harry Morrow, Decker's commanding officer on the USS Boston
  • The Enterprise was in drydock for more than two years before TMP (2270-73): her refit occupied only part of that time because the Starfleet Corps of Engineers fell behind schedule, so the ship wasn't ready as early as planned
  • Enterprise wasn't supposed to launch for at least three or four weeks when the V'Ger incident occurred: Decker had chosen a senior staff, but Kirk elected to assign his old bridge crew to the ship in advance of his return, knowing that there wasn't time to break in the vessel's new systems properly
  • Kirk commanded the Enterprise on a second five-year mission following TMP before returning to the admiralty in 2278, a move necessitated by a huge shake-up at Starfleet Headquarters following several botched intelligence operations in both Klingon and Romulan space: Kirk agreed to serve as Commandant of Starfleet Academy on the condition that he be allowed to command the Enterprise during special missions, using the vessel as his personal flagship: when not on active duty, the ship was to be assigned to the Academy under Spock's command to help train new cadets and junior officers
  • It was during the aforementioned shakeup that Admiral Nogura stepped down as the Starfleet Commander and Chief, making way for the likes of Morrow and Cartwright to assume the roles they held in later films
  • Spock, Scotty and McCoy remained part of the Enterprise crew between TMP and TWOK: Chekov transferred to Reliant (as seen): Sulu was first officer aboard USS Exeter: Uhura split time between the Academy and Starfleet Intelligence
  • Kirk's bridge crew (minus Chekov) was reunited in 2285 for the training cruise seen at the outset of TWOK
  • Immediately following TWOK, Kirk retained command of the Enterprise while the vessel was away from Earth, as ordered by Starfleet Command due to the backlash from Genesis
  • Kirk, Terrell and Esteban were classmates at the Academy, although Terrell and Kirk never actually met until TWOK (confirmed by Terrell in dialogue): McCoy and Terrell were old friends, having served together several years earlier
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Old May 24 2014, 07:54 PM   #137
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Khan Noonien Singh was always white-skinned. Made in a lab (in India?), his skin colour would be irrelevant, anyway - either a whim of his designer or a fluke result of which genes were mixed. Having ruled and lived in India or the middle east for years, he was heavily tanned at his time of exile, a tan he lost on Ceti Alpha V in one life (but that we saw in "Space Seed") and in the secret Section 31 lab beneath London in another. Marla McGuyvers was utterly clueless.

In banning genetic engineering after Khan's exile in 1996, Earth (and later the Federation) deliberately suppressed related technology, immunity to disease (including Clarke's disease, which condemned Henry Archer to a slow death), anti-radiation tech and other abilities Khan and (some?) other Augments had. Various mental ailments went uncured due to this blanket ban (As would have happened to Bashir had his parents not taken extra-legal measures)

Denobulans aren't members of the Federation because they're all genetically engineered ("Borderland"), hence Phlox surviving the intense radiation treatment which defeated Borg nanoprobes in "Regeneration"
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Old May 24 2014, 09:30 PM   #138
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The blue markings in the spoon and on some of the neck ridges of female Cardassians is their version of makeup and not actually part of their biology.
Orion women also use makeup (green) to even out slight irregularities in their skin pigment. This is why Kirk had green makeup on his uniform in "Whom Gods."

Visible Boom Mics are canon.
In the future these are roaming cameras and scanners, they're so common that no one notices them anymore. One of them is damaged in "The Ultimate Computer" and crashes to the deck, this is why Wesley is yelling at Kirk while bending over the armrest of his command chair and facing the deck.

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The Enterprise was in drydock for more than two years before TMP (2270-73): her refit occupied only part of that time because the Starfleet Corps of Engineers fell behind schedule, so the ship wasn't ready as early as planned
In mine ...

Kirk turned over command of the Enterprise to Decker at a outlying starbase, Kirk then traveled to Earth. After a brief standard resupply Decker took the Enterprise out on what was anticipated to be a five year mission.

Upon arriving on Earth Kirk take a weeks leave and then reports to Starfleet Command on the operations staff. Soon after he is promoted to Rear Admiral.

2.5 years before TMP, Kirk is assigned as Chief of Operations. Note; Chief of Operations in Starfleet is not the top position that it is in the US Navy.

1.5 years before TMP, Starfleet begins redesigning the Enterprise. Scotty returns to Earth as one of the engineers assigned.

8 months before TMP, the Enterprise returns to Earth and the "refit" begins.

Decker at this point has been in command of the Enterprise for about four years, while there have been occasional skirmishes in that time, Decker never commanded the ship in full combat and is still considered by some to be "untried."

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Old May 24 2014, 09:55 PM   #139
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Orion women also use makeup (green) to even out slight irregularities in their skin pigment. This is why Kirk had green makeup on his uniform in "Whom Gods."
Orion Foundation? Maybe she's born with it.™

Visible Boom Mics are canon.
In the future these are roaming cameras and scanners, they're so common that no one notices them anymore. One of them is damaged in "The Ultimate Computer" and crashes to the deck, this is why Wesley is yelling at Kirk while bending over the armrest of his command chair and facing the deck.
I was just watching Wolf in the Fold last night and you could see boom mics and shadows of mics and cameras on the walls in a couple of the scenes. Made me grin.
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Old May 25 2014, 12:51 AM   #140
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- Only one ship ever got a letter suffix added to it's hull number and that was Enterprise.

- the "arrowhead" was always the overall insignia for Starfleet. the other insignia seen in TMP we not emblems for specific ships, but for sub-sommands of the fleet. Enterprise folks wore the arrowhead because they were working directly for Fleet command.
That is also part of my personal continuity. Also, Klingons have always had ridges and I ignore the episode that tried to explain it.

I actually ignore the entire Enterprise series.

I see the entire Star Trek Franchise as fictional so I don't mind when our history doesn't line up with theirs. I am pretty sure we will not be visited by Vulcans on April 5, 2063.

I see JJ's Star Trek movies as existing in a parallel universe all on its own and Spock and Nero were from the future of THAT universe and not the original time line at all.

I also look upon the Abramsverse as a parallel universe. The Star Trek universe we have seen over the years has not been altered.
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Old May 25 2014, 01:43 AM   #141
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The universe that Spock and Nero came from was also a parallel/alternate one.

Romulas is live and well and continue to make mischief for our heroes.

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Old May 25 2014, 07:33 AM   #142
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The universe that Spock and Nero came from was also a parallel/alternate one.

Romulas is live and well and continue to make mischief for our heroes.

Yup

Also either this alternate universe or the JJTrek one was where the events of ENT took place, therefore what happened there had no impact on the Prime Universe.
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Old May 25 2014, 06:52 PM   #143
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Also either this alternate universe or the JJTrek one was where the events of ENT took place, therefore what happened there had no impact on the Prime Universe.
If for no other reason than to completely get rid of the ridiculous idea that Jonathon Archer will one day be the President of the prime universe Federation government.

I mean American has had some boobs in the oval office, but come on... Archer?

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Old May 25 2014, 08:06 PM   #144
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If for no other reason than to completely get rid of the ridiculous idea that Jonathon Archer will one day be the President of the prime universe Federation government.

I mean American has had some boobs in the oval office, but come on... Archer?

And also someone that incompetent could ever actually command anything more than a shuttlecraft
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Old May 25 2014, 08:44 PM   #145
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In my headcanon, the Enterprise-E and it's crew were heavily involved in the Dominion War.
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Old May 26 2014, 07:08 PM   #146
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-the TMP enterprise actually looks like its phase II original design instead of an almost completely different class that we see, as opposed to the on screen 1701-a which is a new build.

-starfleet was demilitarized and downsized into an nasa type thing after star trek vi, thats why its so different by picards time (like losing the military red tunics for space pajamas)

-a lot of enterprise is apocryphal (grrrr 22nd century ferengi), though i accept some of the characters and the vulcan arc

-all the reliants and excelsiors we see in the dominion wars are from mothballs that were retired at the end of the klingon-fed cold war that were pressed back into service as drones

-enterprise-e was sent doing bitch work far away from the dominion war front along with some of the nicer fed ships we never or rarely see on DS9 (prometheus, nebulas, intrepids, sovereigns) as an emergency reserve or so in case of defeat picard could carry on a resistance

-the federation, and united earth in particular, is actually a despotic totalitarian junta (here is the proof http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/sh....php?p=1959245 )


-and finally..... the mirror universe is actually our universe
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Old May 27 2014, 11:41 AM   #147
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1. The 1701-A was originally the Yorktown.
2. Miri's planet, Miramanee's planet, Omega IV, 892 IV, and other examples are not Hodgkins Law of Parallel Development, but examples of the Preservers transplanting selected Earth populations to see how differently they would develop from Earth, and the Alien race seen in The Chase were the preservers
3. Star Trek 2009 and STID are in their own separate universe and timeline
4. Events in Enterprise Are canon, except TATV.
5. Scotty thinking Kirk rescued him at first in Relics was just him delirious after spending 70 years in a transporter loop
6. Kirk still lives in the Nexus.
7. Admiral Riker still gets his shot at the Enterprise-D as his own flagship: as admiral, he finds out that the Enterprise-D saucer secion was salvaged and relocated to Surplus Depot Z15, along with the star drive of another Galaxy class ship wrecked during the Dominion war. He commissions that the two be overhauled and rebuilt, using other parts from Surplus Depot Z15. The result is the AGT future Enterprise-D. To avoid confusion with the officially commissioned Enterprise-E, which was still in service at that time, the rebuilt and refitted Enterprise-D is not an official service ship, but listed with a special status as a personal diplomatic ship: Riker's flagship.
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Old May 27 2014, 01:34 PM   #148
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Replace "Borg" with "retroactive contnuity" and there you go:

"We've made too many compromises already. Too many retreats. They invade our space and we fall back. They assimilate entire worlds, and we fall back. Not again! The line must be drawn here, ...this far, no further! And I will make them pay for what they've done."

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Old May 27 2014, 02:17 PM   #149
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In my head, sometimes I include some elements (but not all, not even close) of Larry Niven's Known Space:

Section 31 is actually run at its inner core by a cabal of Pak Protectors of human-breeder stock (just as the ARM was in Known Space). Being the master super-chess-players they are, always about a 1000 steps in front of everyone else, they predicted the Dominion would simply capitulate after the Founders were infected. The neck crawly invaders from "Conspiracy" were really bioengineered tools of Sec 31/the Pak cabal, designed to test non-Pak Starfleet response. Due to rejuvenating effects of the Nexus, Kirk could make the transformation to Pak Protector, is alive, and is now a Protector and part of this cabal.


The Kzinti are around (as shown on 1 or 2 starmaps, and of course in "The Slaver Weapon"), but relatively weak compared, say, to the Klingons. They are aligned with the Klingons.

The Borg are a weapon designed by the Tnuctipun against the Slavers/Thrintun, over 2 billion years ago but never used; the founding Borg were let loose from stasis/activated accidentally a very long time after "Suicide Night." For this reason--bio/mechanical design by those master technologists/biotechnologists, the Tnuctipun--the Borg are extremely difficult for even Pak-human adult to predict.
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Old May 27 2014, 03:27 PM   #150
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- While for the most part perfectly benevolent and multispecies, the Federation is at some level the Earth Human Empire, certainly culturally. This will change dramatically in future centuries as entire species begin to meld, culturally and genetically, and glass ceilings become impossible to maintain, and finally meaningless. (And as something happens that causes Earth itself to change or be replaced.)

- 2218 was a "recontact" between the Federation and the Klingons, relations having become cold and distant for decades at that point. It was an attempt at a diplomatic reset, which ultimately failed.

- Most Starfleet captains go through their entire careers never having heard of Section 31.

- The anbo-jyutsu community is a weird martial-arts subculture, mocked by pretty much all other martial artists.

- Mainstream Earth culture experienced a strange cultural drift towards masculinism in the 2250s and 2260s, which was reflected in Starfleet, but soon reversed itself.

- There will eventually be a crisis within Starfleet over differing interpretations of the Prime Directive (i.e. letting planets fry, or not).

- Whether or not she knew it, Hoshi Sato was an Augment.

- "These Are the Voyages" happened as portrayed, in the year when it was said to be taking place, though Trip was clearly involved in something not unlike what happened in the books.

- During the 2220s and 2230s, Starfleet experimented with a wave of much larger starships. This was ultimately deemed inefficient in terms of resources and power.

- Yes, there were additional 5-year missions after TMP and TFF.

- Exclesior tested transwarp, and its crew turned into lizards, hence transwarp's abandonment.

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