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Old April 19 2013, 11:55 AM   #46
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Whoa. Your new partner assimilates all knowledge of your past partners via assimilating your past partners..
Seriously, guys get paranoid enough about their SOs getting too much info about their pasts. Who'd date one who could just jack your brain any time she wants and you'd never know it.
Or, she learns you were thinking "Yes, you do look fat in that dress."
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Old April 19 2013, 11:58 AM   #47
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Yeah who cares about past partners, it's the unspoken words in the current relationship that are best left unsaid.
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Old April 19 2013, 06:16 PM   #48
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I'd be scared to date a full telepath like Troi. Oh I'd get in trouble!
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Old April 19 2013, 07:53 PM   #49
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Haha you're not the only one
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Old April 19 2013, 10:36 PM   #50
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People keep forcing me to post this.

The 11nth episode of the FIRST SEASON!

Was he stoned?

Where is the emotion? If my lover turned out to be a freaking SPY and another entire SPECIES and my entire love affair a FARCE I would be, like, visibly UNNERVED.



If I was writing for this show there is no way I would give this guy dramatic and character building scenes after this crap. This incredibly hilarious crap.
I see nothing wrong in his acting here. Chakotay is obviously supposed to be shocked and surprised that someone he trusted, respected and maybe loved could betray him and this is simply his reaction. OK, I would have yelled and screamed if I had been in his situation but that's me.

Obviously the producers wanted this scene as it was, otherwise they would have told him to show real anger, like "Hey Robert, you're supposed to be mad of anger. Show it!" They didn't.

Chakotay did show anger and emotion in some scenes. When he discovered that Paris was on Voyager in "Caretaker", when he yelled at Torres for turning the day into a lousy day in "Parallax" and when he knocked out Dalby in "Learning Curve".

As for Seska, I agree with you that she should have remained on the ship. They could have captured her in "Basics#2", kept her in the brig for a while and then there would have been a situation in which they had to release her. Then she could have continued with her scemes.

As for why Seska joined the kazon, well I think that it was her only option after been revealed as the one who tried to give them Federation technology in exchange for protection. Then she used the Kazon-Nistrim as a possibility to take over Voyager herself. I guess that she might have planned to persuade some of the Maquis to join forces with her and then continue to the Alpha Quadrant in the same way as Ransom and his gang did.
Lets here from the man himself. Oh Chakotay. Such hate. Even Beltran admits he had a lot of days off during VOY
I get the impression that Beltran is joking a lot of the time in this interview.

If he really hated Star Trek, why should he continue to visit conventions and such? He don't seem to be a greedy guy.

Besides that, some of his comments, jokes or not, does have a point, such as the one about "shields down at 25 %". Sometimes there were just too much unnecessary drama, like when the ship was microseconds from crashing in "Tattoo". That scenario wasn't even necessary for the story itself.

As for Beltran's suggestions for the character Chakotay, he stated in an interview a couple of years ago that he did have a lot of suggestions for the character but almost all of them were
rejected or downright ignored by those in charge.
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Old April 19 2013, 11:56 PM   #51
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As for Beltran's suggestions for the character Chakotay, he stated in an interview a couple of years ago that he did have a lot of suggestions for the character but almost all of them were
rejected or downright ignored by those in charge.
So he sulked for 7 years?
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Old April 20 2013, 09:55 AM   #52
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No, what I have figured out, it came gradually. Obviously he tried his best to come up with suggestions and ideas for the first 3-4 seasons. Around season 6 he was tired and wanted out. He actually suggested that they should write out Chakotay but they refused.

That's one of the few things I'm happy about. If they had written him out, they would have killed him off, something I really didn't want. They could also have ruined the character in the same disgusting way they destroyed Kes.

Anyway, I can't imagine Voyager without Chakotay, my second favorite character in the show.
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Old April 20 2013, 02:33 PM   #53
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That's one of the few things I'm happy about. If they had written him out, they would have killed him off, something I really didn't want. They could also have ruined the character in the same disgusting way they destroyed Kes..
But what if he had died saving the ship and Tom had built another super shuttle and named it the Spirit of Chakotay?
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Old April 20 2013, 03:37 PM   #54
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And the Spirit of Chakotay even gets a fancy logo, based on Chakotay's tattoo. It doesn't use his face, because then Beltran would have to be paid every time it's used.
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That's one of the few things I'm happy about. If they had written him out, they would have killed him off, something I really didn't want. They could also have ruined the character in the same disgusting way they destroyed Kes..
But what if he had died saving the ship and Tom had built another super shuttle and named it the Spirit of Chakotay?
No!
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Old April 20 2013, 11:03 PM   #56
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Just think if the ship was powered by blandness and boring stories. It'd be invincible!
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Old April 20 2013, 11:46 PM   #57
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Little wind flutes start playing whenever the engines power up.
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Old April 21 2013, 01:16 AM   #58
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The tattoo logo on the side.. the wind pipes whenever it's shown flying.. this seems so likely it's terrifying.
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Old April 21 2013, 03:51 AM   #59
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I agree with everything you said except maybe the Kes statement.

Voyager has a strong female cast!
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Janeway is the best, chuck out the rest.

Oh except 7.. you can chuck her out with Janeway. Marooned, even.
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