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Old April 19 2013, 05:39 PM   #121
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Re: STID: The 前ther' Starship / [Spoiler]

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Regarding the size of the Enterprises:

According to the Special Features on the Star Trek BD, the original TOS Enterprise is 948 Feet long, and the nuPrise is 2,379.75 Feet long ... whatever that may be in the metric system.
The TOS Enterprise is 948ft/289 meters in length and the New Enterprise is 2550 ft/777.242 meters in length. Remember they mention that the new Enterprise saucer section diameter is the same as a Nimitz class carrier length, which is 1092ft/334.8423 meters.
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Old April 19 2013, 05:45 PM   #122
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Shouldn't we just be calling this ship Reliant?
has anyone mentioned that old Paul Weller interview in which he says he "has his own ship"

this must be his ship, not Harrison's, at least to begin with.
A ship called Malice?
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Old April 19 2013, 06:26 PM   #123
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How did the Klingons hide that big a$$ Narada from the Federation for 25 years? I'm sure the Klingons are under surveillance.

Hell. Our government knows when Ahmadinejad takes his trash to the curb.
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Old April 19 2013, 06:43 PM   #124
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Maybe they haven't yet invented GoogleAlphaQuadrant.
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Old April 19 2013, 06:47 PM   #125
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Perhaps. But I honestly hate explanations like this that seek to "explain" why the special effects from the 1960s doesn't match our current view of the future. It's almost the same as Klingon ridges.

As Roddenberry said: "What do you mean? It always looked like that." Seems easier to accept.
Of course the beauty is, you could just choose to believe whatever you want, if it's easier to accept, then just accept it. No one's forcing anyone to accept any particular explanation or reality...

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Old April 19 2013, 07:10 PM   #126
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The more egregious error is that the Klingons didn't capitalize on their discovery. It seems that the Federation were the ones who benefited the most from the data collected from the Narada, as demonstrated by the new ship.

Where we get a name for this new ship? I hope so.
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Old April 19 2013, 07:20 PM   #127
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The Dreadnought is the same colour as the Narada was. Coincidence, or an ubership built from reverse-engineered technology?
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Old April 19 2013, 07:37 PM   #128
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Borg technology? That's where GATT2000 would fit in.
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Old April 19 2013, 07:52 PM   #129
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The more egregious error is that the Klingons didn't capitalize on their discovery. It seems that the Federation were the ones who benefited the most from the data collected from the Narada, as demonstrated by the new ship.
That's why I just ignore the entire Klingon subplot from STXI. It just causes too many plot holes to keep, while you can just say "Nero and crew took 25 years to fix the giant hole in their ship and build up a giant supply of missiles."
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Old April 19 2013, 10:25 PM   #130
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The Dreadnought is the same colour as the Narada was. Coincidence, or an ubership built from reverse-engineered technology?
"Thanks to reverse-engineered technology from the future, we've finally unlocked the key to manufacturing black paint."
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Old April 19 2013, 10:38 PM   #131
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The Dreadnought is the same colour as the Narada was. Coincidence, or an ubership built from reverse-engineered technology?
"Thanks to reverse-engineered technology from the future, we've finally unlocked the key to manufacturing black paint."
That's the cutting-edge stealth technology that man had in earlier times (KNIGHTRIDER'S KITT for example), but was probably lost during WW3.
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Old April 20 2013, 12:57 AM   #132
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The Dreadnought is the same colour as the Narada was. Coincidence, or an ubership built from reverse-engineered technology?
I don't think that much time has passed since the last movie.
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Old April 20 2013, 01:20 AM   #133
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Any guesses as to what kind of 'Super Weapon' the Dreadnought has?

Perhaps some kind of Repulser Beam ??

In effect a way to send something like Nero's mass of missiles back at the aggressor...


A brief shot of Enterprise taking a beating around Earth's Moon seems to support your theory. One thing that bugged me was 'why would there be smoketrails in space?'. After a shot by shot examination it seems that the Dreadnought is indeed sending Enterprise projectiles back at her, hitting her both with it's weaponry and directing her own weapons back.. in the shot with the huge nacelle explosion a glimpse of the smoketrail is visible to originate from E's neck, where torpedo tubes are... Of course, photon torpedos do not leave a trail*, but this would have been added to emphasise the effect here...

*(anyway, in the newewst TV spot Enterprise is seen to leave trails like a regualr airliner within the atmosphere, maybe it's a new feature in this movie)
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Old April 20 2013, 01:34 AM   #134
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The more egregious error is that the Klingons didn't capitalize on their discovery. It seems that the Federation were the ones who benefited the most from the data collected from the Narada, as demonstrated by the new ship.
http://scifanatic.wpengine.netdna-cd...impressive.jpg

[Converted to link, so that Anthony doesn't send us an annoyed email about people using his bandwidth to hotlink pics. - M']

Who says they didn't capitalize? The new ride they're sporting in Countdown Into Darkness looks about the size of the Abramsprise (and presumably we'll see it in STID).

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Old April 20 2013, 04:11 AM   #135
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Memory Alpha seems to support this theory guys;

"Star Trek screenwriter Roberto Orci (in a post on Ain't It Cool News [3] as well as in an interview with Star Trek Magazine[4]) and J.J. Abrams (in an interview with MTV, conducted between the two aforementioned statements from Orci [5]) established a reason why technology in the alternate reality appears to be more advanced than it is during the same period in the prime reality; scans of the 24th century Narada, taken by the Kelvin, were brought back to Starfleet by the survivors on the Kelvin's shuttles."

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Alternate_reality
That doesn't explain why the Kelvin seems more advanced than even the TNG-era, even before the Narada appeared.
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