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Old April 27 2013, 05:38 PM   #196
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Re: STID: The 前ther' Starship / [Spoiler]

I think if a Borg Cube rammed it a warp 9.9, it may wobble. Just a little bit.

And then, in a secret sub-basement under Starfleet HQ, a Starship designer points at a co-worker and goes, "See? I told you those handles were worth it!"
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Old April 27 2013, 05:40 PM   #197
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Handles along the corridor, like something could hit this ship with enough force to knock people off balance?

And that phaser she's carrying, NOT Canon!!1
Borg better be careful fucking with Starfleet in this timeline.
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Old April 27 2013, 05:43 PM   #198
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So we've got the 'balls of Vengeance' going up against the 'ample nacelles of the Enterprise'.
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Old April 27 2013, 05:44 PM   #199
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Handles along the corridor, like something could hit this ship with enough force to knock people off balance?

And that phaser she's carrying, NOT Canon!!1
Borg better be careful fucking with Starfleet in this timeline.
Just wait until you see the size of an AbramsCube.
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Old April 27 2013, 06:26 PM   #200
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[Obi-Wan] Thats no cube... thats an ABRAMS CUBE.
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Old April 27 2013, 06:29 PM   #201
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TNG in the Abrams Trek verse... I just have no idea what to expect and that's a good thing You know its coming.
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Old April 27 2013, 09:09 PM   #202
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I guess I'm easy to please, but I'm looking forward to a model of this ship. An open saucer, and fianally, someone has made the front end of a secondary hull look a bit more busy. I have no problems with that. Now the aft shot of it moving towards the ocean make it look very wide and sleek. It has aspects of the all good things enterprise on the underside of the saucer.

But it is a villains ship--so you are supposed to hate it.
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Old April 28 2013, 12:39 PM   #203
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Time to send some technically-minded fans' bloodpressure through the roof.
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Old April 28 2013, 02:36 PM   #204
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Re: STID: The 前ther' Starship / [Spoiler]

For an organisation that can build Spacedock, those size differences are minor.

http://images.wikia.com/startrek/ima..._spacedock.jpg
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Old April 28 2013, 02:48 PM   #205
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Time to send some technically-minded fans' bloodpressure through the roof.
You'd get a workout if the turbolifts went out and you had to get from the bridge to the shuttle bay.
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Old April 28 2013, 03:50 PM   #206
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Nah. That's what a transporter is for.
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Old April 28 2013, 05:14 PM   #207
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Time to send some technically-minded fans' bloodpressure through the roof.


By the way, I did a quick pixel measure on the lightened image from page 10 of this thread. If the middle "jar" structure contains the bridge (seems like it has the same lights as the set pictures), that measures about 100 px. The entire primary hull is 1800 px across, or 18 times as wide. So, if you put the bridge at, say, a liberal 20m diameter, the hull is 360m across.

Anyway, if Vengeance "twice as big" as the Enterprise, that would downscale the ship to about the size of the TMP refit (in fact, your diagram above shows the length of the Enterprise is roughly the same as Vengeance's saucer).

BUT, if you look at the scene where Vengeance is crushing Alcatraz, the "death ball" is roughly the size of the lighthouse, which is 27m tall. I measure the starboard one to be about 65 or 70 px, which suggests about 0.4m/px. So, an 1800px diameter would be just under 900m. But that would make that central structure almost 50m wide.

Looks like the graphic artists are taking liberties again...

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Old April 28 2013, 06:12 PM   #208
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Time to send some technically-minded fans' bloodpressure through the roof.


By the way, I did a quick pixel measure on the lightened image from page 10 of this thread. If the middle "jar" structure contains the bridge (seems like it has the same lights as the set pictures), that measures about 100 px. The entire primary hull is 1800 px across, or 18 times as wide. So, if you put the bridge at, say, a liberal 20m diameter, the hull is 360m across.

Anyway, if Vengeance "twice as big" as the Enterprise, that would downscale the ship to about the size of the TMP refit (in fact, your diagram above shows the length of the Enterprise is roughly the same as Vengeance's saucer).
I see what you tried to do there.

The Vengeance is twice the size of the NuEnterprise and the TOS Enterprise could probably land in the Vengeance's shuttlebay, which I would pay good money to see

Seriously bud let it go...
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Old April 28 2013, 06:13 PM   #209
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I think the only real point that matters is that the Vengeance is bigger than the Enterprise.
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Old April 28 2013, 07:57 PM   #210
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Time to send some technically-minded fans' bloodpressure through the roof.
Come on, Z - you did pretty much the same thing here:
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Anyone willing to do a scale estimate on the size of this thing? (to prove it's about 800m long? )
Getting all rolly-eyed at someone for returning your volley is just silly.

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I think the only real point that matters is that the Vengeance is bigger than the Enterprise.
Yup. It's really big.
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