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Old April 16 2013, 11:16 PM   #106
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Back on topic, Prime universe Starfleet built warships in the Defiant and Sovereign classes and there is no reason to believe Abrams-verse Starfleet can't or won't do the same.
Especially after their last fleet was decimated by a single ship, that had to leave the Federation extermely vulnerable to an attack from the Klingons or Romulans. Desperate officers at the top could lead to well warships and worse.
This is my thought as well... After getting pasted by the Narada, Starfleet knows there are bigger boys on the block and so they start developing bigger toys to play with them...

Much like the Defiant (tough little ship) was designed with the Borg in mind... The difference between the two being that to battle the Borg, Starfleet needed speed, manuverability and fire power... To face off against something like the Narada, they need size, armor AND fire power...
Starfleet didn't know about the Narada, starfleet haven't had time to built that ship in that short of time space. If it was built because of the reports from the Kelvin survivors? Then Why didn't they built the Enterprise and other starships like Harrison ship?
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Old April 16 2013, 11:16 PM   #107
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Would be cool if the new ship is Excelsior, several decades early. Hey, the timeline's screwed up already, why not?
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Old April 16 2013, 11:29 PM   #108
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The poll at Trekmovie is showing 96% like or love for the final trailer.

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Old April 16 2013, 11:45 PM   #109
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Ok I've just had to watch it I wasn't going to but I have and OMG !!!! Lets see some fans were moaning about not enough space scenes for Star Trek oh wait that trailer was Awesome space battles red blue and gold shirts everywhere TOS Star Trek has never been so good !!! I've always wondered what a Star Trek movie with massive budget would be like and 2009 movie came out and I nearly screamed with joy..... But now this one holy crap even if your not a Star Trek fan this could be the best Sci Fi movie ever.... And I have to say this better than Star Wars...... Is it mad of me to say it !!!!
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Old April 16 2013, 11:46 PM   #110
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And we get Klingons !!!!!! Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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Old April 17 2013, 12:08 AM   #111
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I'll just echo the collective nerdgasm. I think we have a winner on our hands.

I loved Kirk's 'I'm sorry' remark. Not the most inspiring comment your CO could make.
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Old April 17 2013, 12:17 AM   #112
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I'll just echo the collective nerdgasm. I think we have a winner on our hands.

I loved Kirk's 'I'm sorry' remark. Not the most inspiring comment your CO could make.

Sometimes you have a to call a spade a spade..and bow to the awesome awesomeness before us.

Kirk is apologizing because he basically took the crew on his manhunt...makes sense to me.

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Old April 17 2013, 12:18 AM   #113
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I loved Kirk's 'I'm sorry' remark. Not the most inspiring comment your CO could make.
even Adama in nuBSG ended up saying "then that's it...it's been an honour" in Exodus Part II when it seemed like they were doomed.

i've watched the trailer several times and think it is a work of genius editing, designed to make us think Harrison is the big bad. i honestly don't think he is. yes, i think he is a terrorist so is a bad guy but something about the way the trailer is cut makes me feel like there is something much bigger going on. i do think the line about the "captain going down with the ship" is a reference to himself and not Kirk

btw, i will admit if i'm completely wrong in a few weeks but its just the vibe i got from the new trailer
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Old April 17 2013, 12:42 AM   #114
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Why is Carol Marcus is screaming and look frighten? It is in this trailer.
She looks annoyed to me.
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Old April 17 2013, 12:45 AM   #115
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Kirk is apologizing because he basically took the crew on his manhunt...makes sense to me.

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Maybe. But it seems more like he's apologizing for the fact they're about to get their collective asses pummeled....

I still can't help but thing, however, there's some editing magic going on here.... I think the "story" told by the trailer is going to be radically different in the movie.

On edit: I noticed two posts above that 3chordboy thinks the exact same thing!
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Old April 17 2013, 01:58 AM   #116
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Maybe John Harrison is trying to start a war with the klingons? Pitching starfleet against the klingon empire for some reason.
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Old April 17 2013, 02:12 AM   #117
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Maybe John Harrison is trying to start a war with the klingons? Pitching starfleet against the klingon empire for some reason.
Maybe he's trying to prevent war with the Klingons by killing all the corrupt Starfleet higher-ups who were gunning for war.
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Old April 17 2013, 02:18 AM   #118
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Maybe John Harrison is trying to start a war with the klingons? Pitching starfleet against the klingon empire for some reason.
Maybe he's trying to prevent war with the Klingons by killing all the corrupt Starfleet higher-ups who were gunning for war.
I dunno, destabilizing Starfleet when the Klingons are in an expansionist phase (at least going by Countdown into Darkness) would probably encourage the Klingons to attack.
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Old April 17 2013, 02:47 AM   #119
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Especially after their last fleet was decimated by a single ship, that had to leave the Federation extermely vulnerable to an attack from the Klingons or Romulans. Desperate officers at the top could lead to well warships and worse.
This is my thought as well... After getting pasted by the Narada, Starfleet knows there are bigger boys on the block and so they start developing bigger toys to play with them...

Much like the Defiant (tough little ship) was designed with the Borg in mind... The difference between the two being that to battle the Borg, Starfleet needed speed, manuverability and fire power... To face off against something like the Narada, they need size, armor AND fire power...
Starfleet didn't know about the Narada, starfleet haven't had time to built that ship in that short of time space. If it was built because of the reports from the Kelvin survivors? Then Why didn't they built the Enterprise and other starships like Harrison ship?
1. Starfleet had twenty years to build that ship, from when that huge mysterious alien vessel destroyed the Kelvin. That's plenty of time.

2. The reason why the Enterprise doesn't look like that ship is the same reason why the TOS Enterprise doesn't look like the Excelsior: they were built for different reasons.

3. That dreadnought's design has John Eaves written all over it. While John is a very nice guy, his ship designs tend to all look the same no matter what time period the ship is from. So there's no reason to assume that this ship is from the future just because it shares characteristics with a 24th century ship designed by the same guy.
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Old April 17 2013, 03:02 AM   #120
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This is the whole problem with modern movie audiences. Younger so-called "fans" don't respect Trek's history and are way too easily impressed by a movie being absolutely awesome!
What's that supposed to mean? I have been a trek fan since the 70s and I think JJ has done an awesome job capturing the spirit of the original series. The movies are like the "event" type episodes in Season 2... Doomsday Machine, Ultimate Computer, Immunity Syndrome, and I would even throw Tholian Web and Elaan of Troyus from season 3 in the mix. The character archetypes are all there, plus with the additional changes in the timeline like Vulcan being destroyed, and Pike acting as a mentor for Kirk has been really interesting.

There are some things I don't like about JJ Trek, like the design of the Enterprise, it is just ugly, and the brewery as the engine room, but that is just the style they decided to go with. I guess we can't have everything

When Trek 2009 came out and I heard about the reboot I went in not wanting to like it, but I think the scene that hooked me in, was when Bones and Kirk meet on the shuttle the first time.

It is also great to see Trek get back to it's roots and lose the pretentious stuffy TNG style.

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