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Old April 17 2013, 03:27 AM   #31
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I'm going to be honest; there are parts of "Threshold" I find pretty funny. Like when Tom is talking about his funeral -- "Here lies Thomas Eugene Paris, beloved mutant." Or when Janeway asks the Doctor if he can wake Tom, and he says, "I believe so," and then yells, "WAKE UP, LIEUTENANT!"
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Old April 17 2013, 03:34 AM   #32
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Not an episode, but given how many people dislike The Motion Picture I usually end up defending it as it is one of my favorite pieces of Trek.
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Old April 17 2013, 05:00 PM   #33
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The Alternative Factor. To be honest, pre-internet, I would never have considered this to be a weak Trek instalment. Yet, it consistently comes up on "worst of" fan lists. As such, although I don't believe it to be a "bad" episode, I'll throw it in as my vote. In actuality it's one of my favourite S1 entries!
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Old April 17 2013, 08:49 PM   #34
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The Alternative Factor. To be honest, pre-internet, I would never have considered this to be a weak Trek instalment. Yet, it consistently comes up on "worst of" fan lists. As such, although I don't believe it to be a "bad" episode, I'll throw it in as my vote. In actuality it's one of my favourite S1 entries!
Lazarus stealing dilithium twice after telling Kirk he was going to take it always makes me laugh. My biggest gripe about TOS was always the security (or lack thereof) on the Enterprise.
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Old April 17 2013, 11:45 PM   #35
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The Magnificent Ferengi always makes me chuckle, but I never liked that it seemed to undermine the seriousness of Empok Nor.
"The Magnificent Ferengi" was another one I enjoyed. It was a nice intermission from the intense war arc.
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Old April 18 2013, 12:02 AM   #36
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Not an episode, but given how many people dislike The Motion Picture I usually end up defending it as it is one of my favorite pieces of Trek.
I so very much agree.

Sure, The Motion Picture was a mish-mosh of previous TOS episodes, but just remembering the communal excitement of fans on opening-day ... It was the culmination of a decades worth of aspirations and effort. I honestly don't know if any film could have met the expectations of such a diverse demographic but the magic of that December night in 1979 will forever give this premeire installement an advantage when ranking the Trek films ... Afterall, we are not Vulcans.
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Old April 18 2013, 12:03 AM   #37
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TOS - "Patterns of Force", criticized in its day, still criticized today, it opened the door for Star Trek Space Nazis everywhere, and showed how Skip Homeier was still hounded by typecasting after playing a Hitler youth over 20 years earlier.
I never knew that was considered a bad episode either. Always loved that episode!
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Old April 18 2013, 05:58 AM   #38
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TNG: "Genesis." C'mon, Barclay turns into a spider-monster. What's not to love?

TOS: "Gamesters of Triskelion." Even as a kid, I knew this one was corny and cliche, and Shawna's tin-foil bikini would embarrass Barbarella, but I still enjoy it occasionally, if I'm in the right frame of mind.

And I sometimes think I'm the only Trekkie in the world who always eagerly looked forward to "Catspaw." It's the one-and-only Star Trek Halloween Special for the Old Ones' sake--written by Robert Bloch, no less!
Genesis is the only Star Trek episode that made me want to hide behind the sofa with my eyes closed. My guilty pleasure is Spock's Brain.
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Old April 19 2013, 03:38 PM   #39
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Spock's Brain -
It has some good parts. Kirk finally asks advice from someone else other than Spock.
I also like how seriously they all play it.
This episode just proves that Kirk cannot lose - ever
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Old April 19 2013, 06:11 PM   #40
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Not an episode, but given how many people dislike The Motion Picture I usually end up defending it as it is one of my favorite pieces of Trek.
I only rewatched it a year or so ago, for the first time since TNG was around. I just remember it being so bad it wasn't worth a rewatch.

Time... has improved it somewhat. While the effects are still needlessly drawn out and don't serve any purpose, the dialogue is actually hilarious in retrospect with the sexual puns. Spock announcing they've achieved full penetration as the Enterprise flies into a suggestively shaped hole, things like that.

Not enough to move it from it's position at the bottom half of the movies list, but enough to make it bearable to watch again!
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Old April 19 2013, 07:15 PM   #41
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Not an episode, but given how many people dislike The Motion Picture I usually end up defending it as it is one of my favorite pieces of Trek.
I love The Motion Picture, it is one of my favorites and reminds me so much of the original series. Other than Trek 09 The Motion picture really felt like a large scalse grand event.
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Old April 19 2013, 07:18 PM   #42
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I unabashedly LOVE The Motion Picture. Sure the story is slow, and not much happens, but it's absolutely gorgeous. Two hours of wonderful eye candy. And there's something about 1970s sci fi that looks and feels much more futuristic than the sci fi in the decades after.
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Old April 19 2013, 07:45 PM   #43
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The Alternative Factor. To be honest, pre-internet, I would never have considered this to be a weak Trek instalment. Yet, it consistently comes up on "worst of" fan lists. As such, although I don't believe it to be a "bad" episode, I'll throw it in as my vote. In actuality it's one of my favourite S1 entries!

TAF is televised NyQuil. One of the most boring and pointless episodes of TOS. I'd rather sit through "brain and brain, what is brain?" than sit through the tedium of TAF.
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Old April 19 2013, 08:04 PM   #44
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I've rewatched VOY: Muse and TNG: The Neutral Zone multiple times. The latter most recently. Although I am not sure bad is the proper title – it would have been a great episode if it wasn't for the immensely stereotypical cardboard characters in the cryopods and the if the crew did not act silly, particularly if Worf did not bump his head in doors like an idiot and Picard did not nearly dismiss people's lives like they were nothing in his exchange with Crusher. The concept and setting were solid.
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Old April 19 2013, 10:29 PM   #45
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The Alternative Factor. To be honest, pre-internet, I would never have considered this to be a weak Trek instalment. Yet, it consistently comes up on "worst of" fan lists. As such, although I don't believe it to be a "bad" episode, I'll throw it in as my vote. In actuality it's one of my favourite S1 entries!

TAF is televised NyQuil. One of the most boring and pointless episodes of TOS. I'd rather sit through "brain and brain, what is brain?" than sit through the tedium of TAF.
Ah well, each to their own. If memory serves, this isn't the first time our respective "Trek tastes" have radically diverged, sonak!!!
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