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Old May 20 2013, 03:08 PM   #16
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i liked farragut precisely because the captain wasn't a larger than life kirk-like character. he seemed more like a regular guy that has to deal with extraordinary situations.
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Old May 20 2013, 05:01 PM   #17
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And their Kirk is such an excellent Shatner impersonation.
And I think that is the problem. You shouldn't be doing an impersonation of another actor. You should be interpreting the character in your own way. No James Bond actor ever tried to impersonate Sean Connery. Each actor brought their own vision to the roll.

Impersonations of Shatner are invariably caricatures.
I tend to agree. Obviously mileage varies, but personally I prefer to see a fresh take over someone just ageing another actor's performance.

I also think, and I'm sure plenty will disagree, that's why some people dislike other interpretations of Kirk. Because they want the person playing Kirk to just be a clone.

You just can't please everyone.
You certainly cannot. On other forums people have complained that he doesn't sound ENOUGH like Shatner, that his voice is "higher than Shatner's"...while others say he SOUNDS like him, but doesn't LOOK like him. Then still others say, he looks and/or sounds TOO MUCH like him...that he is simply doing an impersonation.

Just like so many complained about James Cawley's hair color. Again, comparing him to Shatner.

If I were Vic, James or anyone involved in producing a fan film, I'd steer clear of any forums. I'd just do it the way I think it should be done and have fun doing it. Because reading these forums would surely be a frustrating experience.
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Old May 20 2013, 06:26 PM   #18
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I will chime in and note that Jimm Johnson's Garrovick was an entirely different type of Captain than we have seen before. Obviously a brilliant officer, but cold and reserved (grim?) with massive emotional baggage. The dynamic Dennis Bailey created with the internal stresses and conflict of the command crew was a very interesting take on how professionalism can overcome personality conflicts.
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Old May 20 2013, 07:14 PM   #19
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Jimm Johnson gave me a lot of guidance on different aspects of the characters' histories, and I picked up on things that I particularly liked from "The Savage Empire."
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Old May 20 2013, 09:13 PM   #20
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Jimm Johnson gave me a lot of guidance on different aspects of the characters' histories, and I picked up on things that I particularly liked from "The Savage Empire."
The Exeter crew wasn't a big bunch of warm fuzzy teddy bears, but when the crunch came they could get the job done and I think that's a more real take on ship operations than many we've seen in the Trekverse.
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Old May 21 2013, 07:31 AM   #21
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Jimm Johnson gave me a lot of guidance on different aspects of the characters' histories, and I picked up on things that I particularly liked from "The Savage Empire."
The Exeter crew wasn't a big bunch of warm fuzzy teddy bears, but when the crunch came they could get the job done and I think that's a more real take on ship operations than many we've seen in the Trekverse.
That was the thing that appealed to me about it, and when I rewrote the sadly unfilmed "The Atlantis Invaders" my mantra was "these are professionals, and they should act it". For instance, I had a scene where Cutty popped off two phasers shots, at night, and took out two targets and long range because that's what he's trained to do. The characters could disagree, and even be catty in casual circumstances, but when the situation got serious, so did they.

I also liked that Exeter remembered what the original show was like: it wasn't a "family". It was a crew.
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Old May 21 2013, 03:02 PM   #22
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Yeah, the Exeter characters were each caught up in the trajectory of their own careers to a greater extent than the Enterprise crew have eventually been portrayed to be. Well, except for B'Fuselek; who knows what's going on with that guy?
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Old May 21 2013, 03:35 PM   #23
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Well, Pike was highly conflicted from the get go, and Kirk was conflicted as well. He questioned his command judgement when crew members died. I'm sure if the series had gone on his back story would had gotten more conflicted as it did with Carol Marcus.
When TNG premiered, my local paper pegged Patrick Stewart's Picard as a cold monolithic character that was half alive and that some people are actually content to go through life half alive. Wow, what a review right off the bat.
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Old May 21 2013, 04:45 PM   #24
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Of course, that "half-alive" issue was addressed brilliantly in "Tapestry".
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Old May 21 2013, 06:17 PM   #25
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I've always liked the Exeter characters, who really felt like a fresh take on things. I also have no problem with James Cawley as Kirk. I haven't seen enough of Vic's Kirk to know what I think.
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Old May 22 2013, 05:22 PM   #26
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I really want to see the new Continues episode before I make a full judgement on Vic's Kirk. From what I have seen, he's got the body language down pat but the voice doesn't work as well for me. I think part of it is that the look is so convincing that Vic's very different voice stands out more.

Another thing I like is that Continues and Phase 2 seem to be taking very different but complementary directions, with Continues following directly on from TOS and Phase 2 drawing from the unfilmed 70's series and even TAS.

Then again, I'll take all the TOS-era fan films I can get.
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Old May 24 2013, 04:20 AM   #27
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I can't understand judging a series after only its first episode, (unless it's a one-shot) ... let alone after a few short films (I refuse to use that weird 'v' word)... when not even the first full episode has been released. geez louise... I'm not against judging, but judging requires EVIDENCE. Wait until Episode 2 of Continues ... THEN judge.
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Old May 24 2013, 10:09 AM   #28
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^^^ I couldn't agree more. What I've seen is promising in several areas. Personality issues are not of any interest to me. I don't want to be friends with the cast members: I want their product to entertain me. It's wonderful if actors are warm, fuzzy teddy bears in real life, but that wasn't the case with a lot of the actors from the professional series and it didn't have any impact on my enjoyment of them. I don't see why a fan produced series should be any different.
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Old May 24 2013, 06:32 PM   #29
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I thought I'd be able to get it done, but I won't be able to finish my entry in time. If I had seen this early and had the full amount of time I would have been ok, but a week just wasn't enough time. If anyone is interested, I may post my treatment when I do finish it.
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Old May 24 2013, 08:21 PM   #30
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Of course, that "half-alive" issue was addressed brilliantly in "Tapestry".
Except that he still came back half dead.
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