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Old April 19 2013, 10:29 PM   #16
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Re: The Official "Oblivion" Review Thread

I did see it this morning, and I thought it was really good. I knew a little from the comments in the thread, but I didn't know how everything fit together so I was still very interested in seeing where things went. I loved the look of the movie, and I thought the story was great.
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Old April 19 2013, 11:39 PM   #17
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Genuine science-fiction movies are quite rare, and I thought this one was very well-made, ambitious and extremely enjoyable. It looks and feels like one of those great science-fiction novels from the 1970's. It's not perfect but I wholeheartedly recommend it to anyone who enjoys that kind of material.
Yes if you've ever pined over the dearth of pure sci-fi movies don't skip this because it's Cruise or whatever.
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Old April 20 2013, 01:45 AM   #18
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I've seen a few professional reviews that seemed off, like they were repeating from a script. That script is that Oblivion is totally derivative. This may seem plausible except that if you've seen Oblivion you haven't seen much of the movies it's supposedly ripping off.

On the other hand there are some things really are wrong with it. The most notable is a scenic design that goes for the "Wow! Cool!" but forgets that the viewer doesn't lapse into unconsciousness. There is no way that these landscapes could possibly exist. And the only way for even "mindwiped" people to live the decor in the tower apartments is if they are mindwiped at least weekly. I attribute this to coming from a comic book format, where readers are accustomed to assuming that a cool still picture is somehow part of a living reality, instead of seeing it. And the blankness of the female characters probably comes from the comic books too.

Despite the action sequences (mostly well done, not too much boring invulnerability,) however, the movie is fundamentally powered by True Love. Even worse, there is heroism instead of bad assery. For me that makes it an enjoyable experience. I expect that it means the movie will be a disappointment for the studio. (And if the reviewers have anything to do with it, a bomb.)
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Old April 20 2013, 04:36 AM   #19
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And the only way for even "mindwiped" people to live the decor in the tower apartments is if they are mindwiped at least weekly.
What do you mean? Too minimalistic?
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Old April 20 2013, 04:46 AM   #20
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I kept thinking of it as a live action walle, even the ending is nearly the same.
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Old April 20 2013, 05:16 AM   #21
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I kept thinking of it as a live action walle, even the ending is nearly the same.
You mean Wall-E?
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Old April 20 2013, 05:58 AM   #22
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And the only way for even "mindwiped" people to live the decor in the tower apartments is if they are mindwiped at least weekly.
What do you mean? Too minimalistic?
That is a courteous way to put it. The only functional furniture in the place was the bed. Even the computer screen was badly angled.

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I kept thinking of it as a live action walle, even the ending is nearly the same.
There are some more or less round robots flying about. In what way do the endings of Oblivion and Wall*E remotely resemble each other?
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Old April 20 2013, 06:38 AM   #23
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And the only way for even "mindwiped" people to live the decor in the tower apartments is if they are mindwiped at least weekly.
What do you mean? Too minimalistic?
That is a courteous way to put it. The only functional furniture in the place was the bed. Even the computer screen was badly angled.
They had a dining table and chairs, very simple and cafeteria like. Interesting contrast with Vic who is in a tailored dress and pearls and full make up with her hair done. All the time. In her house she lives in with no one else but her partner. I assumed while watching it that this was an expectation of the people she worked for. "Efficient".
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Old April 20 2013, 06:48 AM   #24
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You're right, I'd forgotten about the dinner set.

Vic's June Cleaverishness was part of what I meant about the blankness of the females.
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Old April 20 2013, 07:32 AM   #25
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I thought it interesting that she was so ready to turn Jack in at the end, seemingly prompted by jealousy. When we see the flashback to the original Vic and Jack she appears to possibly have a crush on him. The photo, the way she's irked he's going back to say goodbye to his wife.. it's a possibility, though maybe I read all that into it. Anyway if there is residual personality left that jealousy element may have been breaking through her clean slate just like Jack's curiosity and memories were breaking through his. And when Jack questions Vic if she recognizes his wife doesn't it seem she doesn't want to admit it?

(Now I wish I could go rewatch these bits right now.)
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Old April 20 2013, 12:53 PM   #26
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I was excited for this project and I'm going to see it today. I saw some bad reviews but I've looked at what some people on my FB are saying who are industry professionals and they have been raving about it, so I'm excited again.
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Old April 20 2013, 03:30 PM   #27
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I saw the movie yesterday and REALLY enjoyed it. I didn't really know anything about it going in and was pleasantly surprised (particularly after seeing that it had gotten pretty much bad reviews). It is really nice to go to a theater and see some good sci-fi. I often wonder why for the most part sci-fi gets bad reviews. In any case, I highly recommend seeing it.
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And the only way for even "mindwiped" people to live the decor in the tower apartments is if they are mindwiped at least weekly.
What do you mean? Too minimalistic?
I have never seen this film, but the use of 'minimalism' piqued my interest. I could stand to hear a little more...

(I'm a big fan of minimalism. I 'decorate' my own house that way!)
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Old April 20 2013, 04:28 PM   #29
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I've seen a few professional reviews that seemed off, like they were repeating from a script. That script is that Oblivion is totally derivative. This may seem plausible except that if you've seen Oblivion you haven't seen much of the movies it's supposedly ripping off.
Then I guess you've missed a lot of movies, because this is one time the paid reviewers got it absolutely right. I lost count listing all the movies it cribbed from in my head. (And cartoons. That blown-up moon looked like they took it right from Thundarr the Barbarian.)

Doesn't mean it was a bad movie. A good science fiction story and decent acting all around.
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Old April 20 2013, 06:16 PM   #30
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^ It doesn't come out in North America until tomorrow, but some theatres are showing it tonight.
Wow - you guys are getting JIPPED lately, when it comes to movies!!!

We are getting "Iron Man 3" next week on Wed. 24/4, days before you!!!

We get Star Trek eight days earlier than the US on Thur. 9/5!


I guess it makes up for ALL of those years when we here in Australia had to wait SIX MONTHS or so for a new film to come out!!!
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