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Doctor Who "Bigger on the inside..."

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Old April 26 2013, 09:08 AM   #106
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Re: Do we want to know the Doctor's secret?

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It makes no sense for there to be a random button that makes a random bit of ledge disappear. It's a deus ex machina that has no logical place in the story.
It makes emotional sense, it's surprising, funny and deeply satisfactory because it's the tenth Doctor first significant victory. But no, it doesn't make sense in a real-world-logic way, and I can see how that could be annoying if you're interested in that kind of things.

Well, Black Mirror is a show that deconstructs and satirises the media whereas RTD just filled the show with as much celebrity culture as is possible in order to grab ratings. This had the effect of making it date very fast. What was "cool" in 2006, now looks incredibly lame, dated and confused. Your mileage may vary.
It does vary, yes. I can remember quite a few stories where pop culture was satirized in RTD's Doctor Who. Just off the top of my head, the Britney Spears song in The End of the World, a song which, quite obviously no one remembers and no one really listens to and is only played because a bunch of decadent rich people desperately want to feel a connection to old Earth but can't because they can't be bothered to learn anything about it, is, in my opinion, a clever pop culture reference.
What? Toxic is like one of her best songs EVAH!

It's easy to look back with hindsight and say it's wonderful that the Beatles were played on Who but that is with a lot of hindsight. For all anyone at the time knew the Beatles were a mere flash in the pan who'd quickly become a footnote in history.

I wasn't always keen on RTD's celebrity nods, but they were rarely more than brief cameos and mostly didn't impact on the plot, and hey in future people watching episodes will probably just think McFly were a made up band designed to give the episode some colour. Is it really that different to John Cleese in City of Death or Hale and Pace in Survival?

But yeah, RTD wasn't always great on endings, although in fairness even though a lot of them were rubbish they were often foreshadowed and didn't quite come out of nowhere (Tooth and Claw, Last of the Timelords).

Being completely honest and up front I'd take Moffat over RTD, but again if I'm completely honest I don't always love Moffat Who as much as I expected to, and sometimes I do miss a dash of RTD in-your-faceness.
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Old April 27 2013, 11:24 PM   #107
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Re: Do we want to know the Doctor's secret?

I really think that the answer that will be revealed in "The Name of the Doctor" will be something along the line of "I don't know".

I think that the Doctor doesn't know the answer to the question of "Doctor Who?", and doesn't particularly want to know. Is in fact, actively fleeing/hiding from the information for some very important reason. (Like when 10 was hiding his Timelordiness in "Human Nature / The Family of Blood".)

When he silenced Clara before she said his name aloud in "Journey to the center of the Tardis", he didn't seem all that concerned that she knew his name, but that she not tell him what she knew, because he has blocked this info from himself for some higher purpose.

The revelation that Moffat promises we'll come away with, is that not even the Doctor knows who he really is, and the why of this will form the underlying theme of the next series.
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