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Old April 11 2013, 01:39 PM   #31
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But anyway, Spock says "A total of fifteen incurably insane out of billions is not what I would call an excessive figure." [Emphasis added.]
Whom Gods Destroy is a fun outing as long as you don't think too much about the whole "cure for insanity" bit. I just don't see there being one cure that works for the at least four different species (Human, Andorian, Tellarite and Orion) that we see in the episode.
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Old April 11 2013, 05:05 PM   #32
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There's no implication that they would all be receiving the same cure, though. They just happen to be in the same facility.

And as for them being the only incurably insane individuals in the universe... I'd rather argue that they are the only criminals the UFP both

1) caught and
2) subjected to the usual routines of helping the criminally ill (that is, all criminals),

and unlike the billions of other criminals throughout the history of the criminal curing system (out of the trillions upon trillions of individuals forming the UFP, most of whom are not criminally insane), they currently represent the lot that has immunity to this usual cure.

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Old April 11 2013, 05:28 PM   #33
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There's no implication that they would all be receiving the same cure, though. They just happen to be in the same facility.
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Captain's Log, stardate 5718.3. The Enterprise is orbiting Elba Two, a planet with a poisonous atmosphere where the Federation maintains an asylum for the few remaining incorrigible criminally insane of the galaxy. We are bringing a revolutionary new medicine to them, a medicine with which the Federation hopes to eliminate mental illness for all time. I am transporting down with Mister Spock, and we're delivering the medicine to Doctor Donald Cory, the governor of the colony.
Sounds like a "one size fits all" kind of cure.
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Old April 11 2013, 06:23 PM   #34
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Ah, right. The cure was only shown to be working on (and tried on) Garth, though.

Is Garth human? (And is Marta really Orion, or just crazy? Her paint rubs off on Kirk, after all...)

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Old April 11 2013, 06:40 PM   #35
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The man had a stellar career before M5 freaked out, so I can see him getting some slack and the blame beign shifted around to cover a lot of asses. He takes a 'retirement' and all is well and reps are intact.

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That goes beyond mere courts-martial and into the realm of a government changing hands in the next election.
Fat Chance Productions presents: that happens only in simulations. In reality, the party in power that caused the debacle spins the whole thing in the media so that it becomes the fault of another political party that had nothing to do with it. Unlike M5, the guilty have no scruples to hamstring their ambitions.
Or you claim that Klingons/Romulans hacked the computer and only the bravery of the Enterprise crew managed to uncover and neutralize the sabouter before more deaths were caused.
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Old April 11 2013, 06:46 PM   #36
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Or you claim that Klingons/Romulans hacked the computer and only the bravery of the Enterprise crew managed to uncover and neutralize the sabouter before more deaths were caused.
That's it, shift the blame to the poor Starfleet Information Technology Security team. Poor bastards.
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Old April 11 2013, 06:51 PM   #37
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Or you claim that Klingons/Romulans hacked the computer and only the bravery of the Enterprise crew managed to uncover and neutralize the sabouter before more deaths were caused.
That's it, shift the blame to the poor Starfleet Information Technology Security team. Poor bastards.
That's what they get for installing Windows 8 on M-5.
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Old April 11 2013, 06:55 PM   #38
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After the Federation funny farm Daystrom did some consulting work on a new concept project... LCARS!
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Old April 11 2013, 08:09 PM   #39
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Or you claim that Klingons/Romulans hacked the computer and only the bravery of the Enterprise crew managed to uncover and neutralize the sabouter before more deaths were caused.
If not for the courage of the fearless crew, the Enterprise would be lost, the Enterprise would be lost.
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Old April 13 2013, 12:57 PM   #40
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Didn't he work on perfecting the M-6, the first multi-dianetic device?
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Old April 13 2013, 01:39 PM   #41
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Rather than hook the M-5 unit up to the Enterprise and give it "varchully unlimited power!", Starfleet should have tested M-5 by linking it to another computer-- a virtual simulator that the M-5 thinks is the real deal. The Enterprise, outer space, and other starships would all be simulated in the virtual environment.

Starfleet officers would log on and play the game as if they were on their real ships, and only M-5 wouldn't know it was a virtual environment. Then when the unit went crazy and started killing people, all the lessons could be learned and nobody really dies.
But we don't know whether this happened or not. I'm pretty sure Starfleet would've extensively tested the M-5 before putting it on a ship.
They didn't know about Joshua.
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Old April 14 2013, 02:50 AM   #42
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^ Or Colossus.


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Old April 14 2013, 02:56 AM   #43
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...Yes, they say he will be taken someplace to get help, but was he held responsible for what happened? Was he even tried for his role in what happened? And where was he sent to be rehabilitated? What did he do after his rehab stint?
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Old April 14 2013, 11:16 AM   #44
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Is Garth human?
I never thought he was. Garth of Izar, making him Human is a bit "small universe."

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Old April 16 2013, 03:22 AM   #45
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Was Lawrence Arabian?
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