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Old April 5 2013, 12:48 AM   #31
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Re: Roger Ebert is dead...

For years he was probably the most accurate movie reviewer of them all. If that doesn't sound like high praise, think again.
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Old April 5 2013, 12:51 AM   #32
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Thumbs down to this news.

Rest in peace, good sir.
Very Sad, for sure.....

Rest in Peace....
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Old April 5 2013, 12:54 AM   #33
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Thanks Roger.. A good critic, a good writer, a good human being.

Listen to how passionate he is - it's infectious
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Old April 5 2013, 12:56 AM   #34
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He fought his cancer well. R.I.P.
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Old April 5 2013, 01:04 AM   #35
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I think the format of the thread title is a bit tasteless.

Anyway, this is sad news to hear but, at the same time, I guess not too surprising given his age and health issues. I didn't always agree with the man and found many a problem with the way some of his reviews were written (many times getting off-point and not criticizing the movie's story or how it was made but, rather, meaningless side issues.) But his reviews were still a good, solid, read because on some level I respected the man's opinion even if I disagreed with it.


RIP, Mr. Ebert.
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Old April 5 2013, 01:32 AM   #36
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I think the format of the thread title is a bit tasteless.
How so? Reading the thread now, I can find nothing --nothing-- objectionable about the format of this thread.

Anyway, this is sad news to hear but, at the same time, I guess not too surprising given his age and health issues. I didn't always agree with the man and found many a problem with the way some of his reviews were written (many times getting off-point and not criticizing the movie's story or how it was made but, rather, meaningless side issues.) /QUOTE]

You don't 'get' what movie reviews are about, really, do you? Those "meaningless side issues" were exactly the kinds of things that you're supposed to find in movie reviews. It sounds more like you read his reviews hoping for summaries of the films. There's a marked difference between the two. And while yes, a good film review should offer some commentary on the technical stuff, the writing, etc. including the ideas and thoughts that a film might posit or elicit in its viewers is completely, totally ok and actually, I find, quite preferable.
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Old April 5 2013, 01:37 AM   #37
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Another legend that helped shape my formative years and reactions to pop culture has left us.

R.I.P. Roger. The two greatest film critics of the era are now gone. Thanks for everything, guys.
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Old April 5 2013, 01:44 AM   #38
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Fuck.

I never had the pleasure of meeting Mr. Ebert, but I have read his reviews for years, and he was the best film critic in the business. In the age of the Internet, where others became obsolete, Ebert only got better. He will be missed.
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Old April 5 2013, 02:13 AM   #39
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Shit, shit, shit. There are very few people in the media whom I can actually say changed the way I think and formed the way I am today. But Ebert did. When I started watching "Sneak Previews" on PBS as a 10 year old kid, I had no idea that people could talk about movies as something that had history and meaning and impact; I thought watching a movie was something to do for an hour or two of fun. It opened up a world I never suspected, but knew I wanted to find out everything about. As I got more into movies in high school and college, I would still try to see foreign and lesser-known films I remembered Ebert liking from those reviews years earlier.

As far as I am concerned he was the best at what he did, and the way he approached his life in the last ten years I respect immensely. It's hard to imagine I won't be able to see what he thinks about new films or new developments in the medium. Thanks for everything Mr. Ebert.
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Old April 5 2013, 02:22 AM   #40
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How so? Reading the thread now, I can find nothing --nothing-- objectionable about the format of this thread.
Just the title. "Roget Ebert is dead..." strikes me as a bit of a cold way to address things as opposed to "Roger Ebert has passed away." or "RIP Roget Eber."

You don't 'get' what movie reviews are about, really, do you? Those "meaningless side issues" were exactly the kinds of things that you're supposed to find in movie reviews. It sounds more like you read his reviews hoping for summaries of the films. There's a marked difference between the two. And while yes, a good film review should offer some commentary on the technical stuff, the writing, etc. including the ideas and thoughts that a film might posit or elicit in its viewers is completely, totally ok and actually, I find, quite preferable.
Look, in my opinion there were times when Ebert's review would get less about how good a movie was, how good the story it was or what issues it had and would go off in an odd tangent. He spent a good chunk of the "Insurrection" review talking about how he thinks electricity should work in a fictional future on a future space ship. He didn't like the movie, fine, I can understand that. A lot of people didn't. But he could've made his opinion based on something other the technical works of a starship's power system.

That's just one that sticks out in my mind the most, but there were other reviews where he'd find some little, nitpicky, thing about the movie or some detail and use that for a basis to discuss the problems the movie had, that it didn't measure up to how expected things like that to work. This isn't about lighting, direction or acting choices, but little nitpicky things.

All the same he was a great reviewer and enjoyed reading his reviews whether I agreed with him or not and it's sad he has passed away.
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Old April 5 2013, 02:27 AM   #41
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How so? Reading the thread now, I can find nothing --nothing-- objectionable about the format of this thread.
Just the title. "Roget Ebert is dead..." strikes me as a bit of a cold way to address things as opposed to "Roger Ebert has passed away." or "RIP Roget Eber."
I'd be more annoyed if someone didn't have enough respect to spell his name correctly in the title than I would simply using the correct observation that Roger Ebert has died.

You don't 'get' what movie reviews are about, really, do you? Those "meaningless side issues" were exactly the kinds of things that you're supposed to find in movie reviews. It sounds more like you read his reviews hoping for summaries of the films. There's a marked difference between the two. And while yes, a good film review should offer some commentary on the technical stuff, the writing, etc. including the ideas and thoughts that a film might posit or elicit in its viewers is completely, totally ok and actually, I find, quite preferable.
Look, in my opinion there were times when Ebert's review would get less about how good a movie was, how good the story it was or what issues it had and would go off in an odd tangent. He spent a good chunk of the "Insurrection" review talking about how he thinks electricity should work in a fictional future on a future space ship. He didn't like the movie, fine, I can understand that. A lot of people didn't. But he could've made his opinion based on something other the technical works of a starship's power system.

That's just one that sticks out in my mind the most, but there were other reviews where he'd find some little, nitpicky, thing about the movie or some detail and use that for a basis to discuss the problems the movie had, that it didn't measure up to how expected things like that to work. This isn't about lighting, direction or acting choices, but little nitpicky things.

All the same he was a great reviewer and enjoyed reading his reviews whether I agreed with him or not and it's sad he has passed away.
This whole section is just a bunch of twatfuckery. Roger was a movie critic. It was his job to critique movies, and he did it with dedication, and a real passion. You don't have to agree with him all of the time. Hell, I adored the man and I didn't agree with some of his reviews. Is there anything more inane you can comment upon today, Trekker?
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Old April 5 2013, 02:30 AM   #42
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I'm sorry for having a fucking opinion. I guess I'll just go kill myself now.

Jesus Christ even the shunshine and happiness pony guy wants to take the shit on me.
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Old April 5 2013, 02:32 AM   #43
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The celeb obits come in and some get you more than others. This one's hard, kind of like losing a friend, I mean we never met but I had a real affection and affinity for Roger more than just admiration or respect. Even when I didn't agree with him I still held him in warm regard. ah, sad...
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I'm sorry for having a fucking opinion. I guess I'll just go kill myself now.

Jesus Christ even the shunshine and happiness pony guy wants to take the shit on me.
Here's an idea: Think about why that is. Not everyone can be after you for just having an opinion. Think about how you're using it.
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Old April 5 2013, 02:33 AM   #45
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Trekker, You are full of BS. I've seen "*insert name* is dead" in headlines and all that a million times, and I'm sure you have....like four years ago

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