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Old August 14 2013, 01:33 AM   #46
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I remember a documentary back in the day on tv which was about filming special effects for TNG and they showed that very tugboat the guy picked it up and showed that it was made from disposable razors and a milk carton! XD

And no I have no idea what show it was as I was 5! lol
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Old August 14 2013, 02:07 AM   #47
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Just putting this out there for general discussion. The excelsior kitbashes were never properly identified by class (Shelly, Raging Queen or Centaur types isn't really an official class name). Been wondering if anyone else thought these designs could/should have been other established classes in the Star Trek canon like the Hokule'a, Merced, or Mediterranean classes. I mean hey why not?
It is my personal belief that these kitbashes should not be equated with the conjectural classes simply because that was not the intention of the model builders, and also that I would rather classes like the Hokule'a, Renaissance and Merced be original designs instead of hastily constructed and out-of-scale kitbashes.
Ok Ill buy that explanation. However I can't help but feel that these classes (Merced, Hokule'a, Renaissance, etc) were probably in some ways very specialized or at least were never produced to as large a degree as Miranda's or Excelsior's (Starfleet's primary ship designs) and served to supplement the capital ships. The only other "in universe" explanation why we never see them is due to them being antiquated like the Constellation. I'm not a big believer in "failed" designs since why would Starfleet produce something unsuccessful. Also I've seen many of the conjectured designs online and while I think they look great, I almost feel like why would Starfleet make another version of a ship that looks and serves the same purpose as an Excelsior or Ambassador of that time period?

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Old August 14 2013, 02:57 AM   #48
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Not every design will work as originally conceived, and certainly there's no reason Starfleet couldn't get around problems by specialization in some cases. The Defiant class springs to mind, having originally been a failed experimental weapons platform with a lot of highly modified systems. It was only the threat of the Dominion that led to its bugs being worked out.
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Old August 14 2013, 05:12 AM   #49
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That one you have listed as the Renaissance class refit is really the Charlston class battleship by Darren Sexton.
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Old August 14 2013, 05:25 AM   #50
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And, of course, we always talk about the big capital ships, but we can't ever truly forget poor ol' Tugboat Willy. I can see a bunch of Runabout parts in there, some AT-ST legs, D'Deridex warp nacelles and Voyager warp pylons at the very least. If we wanna talk about mixed scales, that little guy wins first prize!
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Are there any known pics of the actual filming model? EAS mentioned this spacedock unit I'd never noticed before. It appears next to the Enterprise in "11001001" and the footage was later recycled for "Remember Me." EAS also says it appeared with the Remmler array in "Starship Mine" although I couldn't spot it in the sceencaps.

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Unicron, Gebirg was referring to the tug that was towing a damaged Excelsior class at the beginning of DS9's "A Time to Stand".

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I remember a documentary back in the day on tv which was about filming special effects for TNG and they showed that very tugboat the guy picked it up and showed that it was made from disposable razors and a milk carton! XD

And no I have no idea what show it was as I was 5! lol
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"Reading Rainbow" did a TNG special once, and it partly featured behind-the-scenes effects stuff.

As I recall, the little cylinders were made from disposable razors. I think they were meant to be workbee-style manipulator arms.
CZ, as Praetor said, it was a Reading Rainbow episode. It's at timestamp 1:30 in this video:
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Old August 14 2013, 05:37 AM   #51
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Aha! Yes there it is
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Old August 14 2013, 10:05 PM   #52
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Unicron, Gebirg was referring to the tug that was towing a damaged Excelsior class at the beginning of DS9's "A Time to Stand".
I know, and I was asking if any photos of that model exist anywhere. I just hadn't noticed the spacedock shuttle until I was browsing EAS to see if I could find any leads on Tugboat Willy there.
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Old August 15 2013, 12:46 AM   #53
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I think there may have been a shot of it on DrexFiles, but I can't be sure.
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Old August 15 2013, 04:32 AM   #54
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It seems there was!
http://www.neutralzone.de/database/F...leet/Tug05.htm
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Old August 15 2013, 04:39 AM   #55
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That's the one!

Y'know...looking at that image, I'm now wondering if that was the same miniature as the other one that Unicron mentioned, turned upside-down, and repainted in that bilious palette that all the other DS9 ships were painted in. I see that same boxiness hidden under the surface greebles.
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Old August 15 2013, 04:44 AM   #56
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That's the one!

Y'know...looking at that image, I'm now wondering if that was the same miniature as the other one that Unicron mentioned, turned upside-down, and repainted in that bilious palette that all the other DS9 ships were painted in. I see that same boxiness hidden under the surface greebles.
I don't think they're the same model. Or if it is, that shuttle is completely unrecognizable.
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Old August 15 2013, 02:36 PM   #57
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I don't know - It really looks to me like the ship's core has that same angular box-like infrastructure. It was quite common for model builders to re-purpose older single-use models for other single-use scenes to preserve the budget. The many faces of the Antares-class freighter and the Bajoran Transport are prime examples. But yeah, it could be something else completely, too. I just can't tell...
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Old August 15 2013, 09:22 PM   #58
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Wow... thanks for posting/sharing these! The Trieste is indeed, an unusual design, but something about it makes me like it.
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Old August 15 2013, 09:34 PM   #59
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I just noticed that there is a third upside-down "NyQuil" cup painted the hull color at the very front top of the Trieste saucer... I wonder if the modeler(s) had intended to eventually put a third warp nacelle there?
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I doubt it - some of the other pictures show four more in the back, topside, behind the engines and surrounding the bridge. There's no way they could have fit that many nacelles on there. I figure they're probably long-range sensor assemblies, much like what can be seen on the saucers of the Constellation and Centaur. Possibly even tachyon emitters/focusing arrays, considering its intended use in the episode for which it was built.
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