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Old March 31 2013, 09:37 AM   #16
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Re: Tuvoks Hair... ridiculous

I've seen Klingons without facial ridges. Some have spikey ones, some have rounded ones, some have ridges that look like female body parts like Gowron. So even they're different even if their hair's all dark.
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Old March 31 2013, 09:38 AM   #17
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Re: Tuvoks Hair... ridiculous

I hear even the mighty Kor himself once was a smooth skin.
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Old March 31 2013, 09:43 AM   #18
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Re: Tuvoks Hair... ridiculous

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Lets try a different approach. Let me ask this. Has anybody seen a bald klingon? or a klingon with Red hair? ...how about a white andorian??

If you did you'd be like WTF right?

...Same difference

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JUST IN CASE you're not kidding,

Chang was bald (STVI)

There are white Andorians. They're called the Aenar (ENT: "The Aenar")
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Old March 31 2013, 09:48 AM   #19
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Lets try a different approach. Let me ask this. Has anybody seen a bald klingon? or a klingon with Red hair? ...how about a white andorian??

If you did you'd be like WTF right?
I AM like WTF right now.
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Old March 31 2013, 09:52 AM   #20
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.... takes away from the character development and instead you just have some ghetto looking dude who is supposed to be a vulcan..
This is pretty offensive right here (apparently your intent), and I'm an old white guy.

I have no idea how the color of someone's skin interferes with character development, unless that viewer is only receptive to their own preconceived stereotypes. I suppose you think the President of the United States is a "ghetto looking dude" too.
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Old March 31 2013, 09:53 AM   #21
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Tuvok is an awesome Vulcan. Wonderfully played by Russ.
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Old March 31 2013, 10:04 AM   #22
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Tuvok was blind and still groomed himself with a straight razor in year of hell.

Tuvok spent two months in a subspace fold where his doo did not expand or bulge in the slightest.... And yes he continued to shave despite not having the correct tools for the job.

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Old March 31 2013, 10:08 AM   #23
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Tuvok is an awesome Vulcan. Wonderfully played by Russ.
Tuvok always struck me as more... cultured... than other regular Vulcans like say Spock or Soval. Definitely T'Pol.

And I like that they made him a security officer instead of the science stereotype that was happening.
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Old March 31 2013, 10:23 AM   #24
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Was the Albino from DS9's "Blood Oath" a Klingon?
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Old March 31 2013, 10:30 AM   #25
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According to memory Beta he was. Of course we've seen Klingons with graying hair before so that doesn't mean much. He really didn't act very Klingon though and seemed to regard them quite disdainfully.
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Old March 31 2013, 10:34 AM   #26
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According to Memory Alpha we don't know if he was a Klingon or not.
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Old March 31 2013, 10:37 AM   #27
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Tuvok was also old.

Approaching 100.

Solok was at the Academy at the same time as Sisko, and why would he select a team of crotchety old men to crush humanity? Old people have different fashion to young people. Old people usually stick to the fashion they think is best from when they were prime. My grammy wore the same clothes, and/or identical replacements of those clothes for 50 years. After 1954 is just something that happened to other people.

Tuvok's "prime" period was the 2290s.

It's possible that Tuvok looks exactly like all the other Vulcans who were young and hip in their mid 20s during the 2290s?
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Old March 31 2013, 11:50 AM   #28
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According to memory Beta he was. Of course we've seen Klingons with graying hair before so that doesn't mean much. He really didn't act very Klingon though and seemed to regard them quite disdainfully.
He was an albino.
His hair wasn't graying, it was genetically white just as was his skin. The point I'm getting at is like the Albino, Tuvok's hair could also be explained as a genetic mutation or defect. We also should take into account that Tuvok is not from Vulcan but rather a Vulcan colony where over time this mutation could have evolved over time due to climate and environmental differences compared. While yet still, if there is diversity amoung humans, Klingons(as even Dax has mentioned) and we've even seen it with Hirogen, then why even question diversity in Vulcans?
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Old March 31 2013, 11:54 AM   #29
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Tuvok was also old.

Approaching 100.

Solok was at the Academy at the same time as Sisko, and why would he select a team of crotchety old men to crush humanity? Old people have different fashion to young people. Old people usually stick to the fashion they think is best from when they were prime. My grammy wore the same clothes, and/or identical replacements of those clothes for 50 years. After 1954 is just something that happened to other people.

Tuvok's "prime" period was the 2290s.

It's possible that Tuvok looks exactly like all the other Vulcans who were young and hip in their mid 20s during the 2290s?
No, because we saw Tuvok as a young man and his hair was the same.
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Old March 31 2013, 12:02 PM   #30
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Re: Tuvoks Hair... ridiculous

I think the most logical conclusion is that not all Vulcans are alike. Just like with Humans, there are a variety of different ethnicities among Vulcans, and Tuvok represents one of them.
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