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Old May 13 2013, 02:56 PM   #76
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Re: 10 Things a New Trek Series Must Have

I don't think that a new series should be as serialized as late DS9 but I don't think that you wanna merely tell stand-alone episodes either. I think some lose story arcs like the Worf-Duras storyline in TNG or frequent two- and three-parters like in ENT's fourth season are stuff one can play around with besides season-long arcs.
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Old May 13 2013, 06:56 PM   #77
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I think a show set on a different kind of ship, like a hospital ship, would allow for a certain amount of serialization, but also allow great standalone episodes. It would also allow for different kinds of stories than we've had in the past.

People seem to overstate the serialization of DS9. Even with all of its long arcs, about half of its episodes are standalone - even more earlier in the series. I do agree with the OP that DS9 has aged the best of the big three, but I might be biased because I've loved (nearly) every minute of it since the beginning.
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Old May 13 2013, 08:21 PM   #78
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Whilst DSN might not have been heavily serialised, it did for the most part have a high degree of continuity. Was it 100% accurate with contunity, no of course not. Perhaps it had just the right amount of serilisation not as heavy as some shows i.e "Lost" but not as standalone as others i.e. "ST: VOY"
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Old May 14 2013, 02:23 PM   #79
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I think a show set on a different kind of ship, like a hospital ship, would allow for a certain amount of serialization, but also allow great standalone episodes. It would also allow for different kinds of stories than we've had in the past.

People seem to overstate the serialization of DS9. Even with all of its long arcs, about half of its episodes are standalone - even more earlier in the series. I do agree with the OP that DS9 has aged the best of the big three, but I might be biased because I've loved (nearly) every minute of it since the beginning.
I'd say the frequent appearance of many minor characters in the early part of DS9, this loose connection of dots also counts as serialization.

I like your idea of a hospital ship. Or perhaps a cargo ship, again a space station, a colony ship / colony or a combination of several. I don't think that we need a fifth series with the standard "Starfleet ship explores the universe" pattern, Trek should experiment a bit.
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Old May 14 2013, 03:40 PM   #80
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The only thing wrong with a hospital ship is that by its very mission it's supposed to stay out of danger and avoid getting involved in situations where a show of force is necessary. Essentially, you'll have E.R. or Grey's Anatomy in space, which might be interesting for some folks, but probably boring for the majority of Trek fans who'd rather have something more action-oriented rather than a medical drama with some aliens tossed in.

The alternative is to have the hospital ship be frequently put in dangerous situations and saving [INSERT NAME HERE] from an interstellar disaster--but in such a case, the difference between it and a standard hero ship is academic.

Both VOY and ENT took the exploring space too literally by having their hero ships be generally alone out there by themselves, which can often lead to a lot of repetitive alien-of-the-week stories. TOS and TNG simply had exploring be an excuse for why their ships were out there, but they really told a wide variety of stories in which the actual exploration was investigating something amiss in the Federation's own backyard.
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Old May 14 2013, 07:11 PM   #81
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The ship wouldn't necessarily be out of danger. A series with a hospital ship could be set during say, a Cardassian-Tholian war, and the Federation could be neutral and providing medical aid to both sides. There could be a secondary setting aboard a Cardassian warship serving as escort.

I just threw that out as an idea. As much as I would like a TOS/TNG exploration type series, I think that after the hundreds of episodes already done, a new series in that format would just end up rehashing old stories - no matter what century or universe.
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Old May 14 2013, 09:16 PM   #82
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The ship wouldn't necessarily be out of danger. A series with a hospital ship could be set during say, a Cardassian-Tholian war, and the Federation could be neutral and providing medical aid to both sides. There could be a secondary setting aboard a Cardassian warship serving as escort.
That kind of reinforces the problem with the hospital ship idea, IMO.
I just threw that out as an idea. As much as I would like a TOS/TNG exploration type series, I think that after the hundreds of episodes already done, a new series in that format would just end up rehashing old stories - no matter what century or universe.
A sure-fire way to avoid that is with the characters. The more different, dynamic, and integral they are, the more the show is about them rather than rehashed old stories. But as I said in my earlier post, TOS and TNG didn't limit themselves to just exploring new planets and meeting new aliens every week.
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Old May 15 2013, 11:35 AM   #83
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The format of the story i.e. a ship is not as important as the characterisation and overall writing. After all DW is almost 50 years old, and how is the core story different today that it was in the 1963-1989 era? What's really changed

Is still more or less about a renegade alien having adventures with his companions.

Or "The Adventures of a Mad man and his Blue Box."
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Old May 15 2013, 08:05 PM   #84
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I know Janeway destroyed that localized Borg hub, but aren't they still out there? Perhaps the Borg are also assimilating other galaxies.

If Star Trek is really confined to the Milky Way, then what opportunity do we have to see another series?
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Old May 15 2013, 10:26 PM   #85
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Trek isn't confined to our Galaxy, it's just that our Galaxy is still a really big place and even with warp drive, the vast majority of it is still unexplored and unknown by the late 24th-Century. In the Star Trek Universe, there are potentially several hundred billion star systems that have yet to be visited (taking into account three dimensions). It'll take awhile to see them all, IMO...
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