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Old March 21 2013, 12:41 AM   #1
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Inside the making of ST:WOK (ST ID related)

Not sure if this has been posted but I just came across it and it was a faboulous read. It talks about the script for Space Seed, then all the different versions of Wrath of Khan.

Here are some of the ST ID related items I liked:

In Wilber's original proposal, the Botany Bay contains a criminal named Harold Erickson, who's a blond, Aryan character.
Similiar looking to Harrison? John Harrison. Harold Erikson. Hmmm

Gene Coon, the guy who gave us the Klingons, started writing a lot of memos, 6 or 7 pages long, pushing the idea that Erickson could be Kirk's equal, not just a thug. This episode could have someone who actually challenges Kirk in a significant way. And because he comes from the past, he could be allowed to violate the norms of Starfleet. "They seem to recognize that Khan could be Kirk's Joker or Lex Luthor," says Tenuto.
That's all I've been hearing lately that Abrams wanted to create a bad guy like Joker or Hannibal, etc

"As very late as early December [1966], you're still having drafts where he's this Viking-like guy," says Tenuto. In Coon's script, the character goes by John Erickson, but then reveals his true name to be Ragnar Thorwald. Coon's rewrites start to introduce the idea that this villain is genetically enhanced, and was the leader of the "first world tyranny."
Mighty interesting. So now its John Erickson. Which is just a cover for another name. Hmmmm

Kirk learns that there's a rebellion on a Federation colony, and goes to rescue Carol Marcus and their son David -- except that David is the leader of the rebellion. And then they discover the rebellion is actually fomented by Khan, who's manipulating everything behind the scenes.
I think this is what ST ID is based on. Main bad guy doing everything behind the scenes

The Reliant is a Constitution-class ship, meaning the Enterprise is facing an identical-looking starship
Which is what we kind of have now

So they went with Vengeance of Khan -- except that Lucasfilm requested they change that title because it was too similar to their upcoming Star Wars: Revenge of the Jedi.
Think we all knew this but again another thing where we have Vengance as the main word from the trailer and Vengance is even the title for ST ID in a country overseas

If I didn't know any better, I would think Orci and co wrote ST ID based on this entire article as it seems like there are so many links (homages?) to this.
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