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Old March 18 2013, 11:29 PM   #31
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That stuff too :-/
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Old March 19 2013, 04:55 AM   #32
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Did they? I thought "The Jem'Hadar"'s model work was done before AGT, and the few later Galaxy-class appearances were either stock footage or (once you get into the Dominion War) CGI.
It was used one last time in Way of the Warrior as the USS Venture. It retained the attachments from the AGT modification on the tops of the warp nacelles.

I guess they didn't cover up all the scars after all. You can see some smudging on the saucer around where the registry should be.

I think the smudge has more to do with hiding the registry since the ship isn't supposed to be the Enterprise.
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Old March 19 2013, 05:06 AM   #33
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The old bird of prey was used because only it at the D7 from The Motion Picture had movie quality details.
The main reason it was used was because they wanted to be cheap and reuse all the BOP effect shots from TUC like the BOP going to warp, cloaking, and when it exploded.
Rick Berman, ladies and gentlemen.
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Old March 19 2013, 09:15 AM   #34
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Yeah he really ruined the franchise
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Old March 19 2013, 02:36 PM   #35
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Yeah he really ruined the franchise
Apart from the fact that there would have been no "franchise" without him?
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Old March 19 2013, 03:34 PM   #36
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Yeah he really ruined the franchise
Apart from the fact that there would have been no "franchise" without him?
Well, that's not really true. It was Paramount that turned Star Trek into a franchise. They were the ones that pushed and authorized more Trek shows and movies. Otherwise, things would have stopped with TOS (in hindsight, Trek wouldn't have happened at all if it wasn't for Lucille Ball thinking Trek was a cool idea and signing Roddenberry to a development deal at Desilu).
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Old March 19 2013, 11:50 PM   #37
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For a long time I hated the Galaxy class but after a while I really liked the Probert 6 footer so I don't the the AGT refit.
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Old March 20 2013, 02:56 AM   #38
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Fanboy crap. Loved it when I fist saw it high school but with age and such came an idea of that thing being an abomination. Between the "kewl widgets" sticking out all over the place, the third nacelle ('cause she goes FASTAH!") and the "+3 Megga Phaser Weapon of Max Damage with a d20 per plus critical damage enhancement!" is just... Ugh.

It's an utter abomination.
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Old March 20 2013, 03:02 AM   #39
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I love it!!

I ain't GalaxyX just for my health!

Someone had said this before and I think I will repeat it again:

"It keeps the great look of the Galaxy Class, while giving it a deadly edge"

I definitely agree with this.

I've always liked Andrew Probert's design of the Galaxy Class, but it always looked too saucer heavy, and it felt like it needed more bulk in the star drive.

The 3rd Nacelle adds this bulk. Now it looks great from more angles!

The phaser Cannon is an ok idea, but I could do without it. Perhaps just have heavier/thicker phaser bank strips? But I don't hate it.

I would have loved to see this ship in the movies instead of that insect thing they call the Enterprise E. That thing is hideous.
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Old March 20 2013, 10:47 AM   #40
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For the purposes of the episode, it was fine. It instantly said "this is the same Enterprise but with more POWERRRRR!!!" It did the job it needed to do, and I enjoyed watching it kick some ass at the critical moment.

But it was a quick and dirty hatchet job. No grace, no elegance. Three nacelles doesn't even make much sense, and a whopping great phaser cannon is no good unless you're flying straight towards your target. Also, it looks ugly. Powerful, but ugly.
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Old March 20 2013, 11:41 AM   #41
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Starfleet's answer to the Dominion super-battleship and Borg cubes. Somewhat awkward and yet packs a big punch, making use the Galaxy's ample internal space for additional firepower. Perhaps in this timeline the Ent-D was only badly damaged over Veridian and during the refit process Starfleet decided to see what they could really do with a more combat-focused Galaxy in light of the growing Dominion threat.
I like to think the Ent-D still had the same fate in the so called "anti time future", and was replaced by the 1701-E exactly as we seen it... but in a fit of pique Admiral Riker wanted 1701-D as his flagship, so they made a special dispensation to go back to Veridian III, salvage what was left of the saucer, and retrofit them as a 'new' Galaxy Class just for him. Because, you know, Riker is that awesome.
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Old March 20 2013, 08:20 PM   #42
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"Monstrosity" comes to mind. When kitbashing goes too far.





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Old March 20 2013, 08:30 PM   #43
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Old March 20 2013, 08:55 PM   #44
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my eyes, my eyes

cannot take the sheer coolness
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Old March 20 2013, 09:04 PM   #45
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It might have been OK without that third nacelle. It's like the Enterprise has polydactyly.
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