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Old April 23 2013, 05:34 AM   #76
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Before I finish with this I have an idea for the ship's landing craft which I'd like to realize. I'm also toying with an idea for what could have been Cochrane's prototype.

Later I'd like to tackle my 22nd century starship deign as well as a pre TOS cruiser. I also have a far future Enterprise design I'd like to see realized in 3D.
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Old April 23 2013, 01:02 PM   #77
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It's a bit amusing to see how this came out. After following this thread initially I simply had a basic idea that I sketched out on a piece of scrap paper. Later I sketched out a somewhat better drawing and scanned that into my computer. From that I drew up some basic shape lines in Illustrator and from that I then built up the basic shapes in SketchUp. But once I got started I couldn't resist adding a bit more and a bit more until I had a completed design. Most of the detail I thought up and built on the spot without any detail drawings to refer to.

Weird.
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Old April 23 2013, 06:46 PM   #78
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Warped9 - This is an amazing piece of work! This is why I love coming to this forum
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Old April 24 2013, 04:10 AM   #79
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I'm going to redo the font for U.E.S.S. Valiant because I'm not happy with it. I will use the same font idea I worked up for XCV-205.
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Old April 24 2013, 08:57 PM   #80
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I really like it. I would perhaps add a small sub "sail" at the bow section to further tie in to the DY lineage, but it also works without that detail. Great work.
I avoided the "sub sail" thingy because I couldn't justify it design wise or function wise. I found it looked just too tacked on even while it works for the DY-100 because its main section is so comparatively small. I didn't think it needed that overt visual connection. I felt the Valiant"s main section being cylindrically shaped was enough of a visual connection in terms of evolution.
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Old April 24 2013, 09:44 PM   #81
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Warped: Does the Valiant, as you imagine it, have artificial gravity?
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Old April 24 2013, 11:13 PM   #82
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Warped: Does the Valiant, as you imagine it, have artificial gravity?
I'd say yes because the DY-100 apparently did. And realistically any serious interstellar transport with engines that can give rapid accelerations, decelerations and course changes pretty much demand artificial gravity to help moderate the inertia effects.
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Old April 25 2013, 01:31 AM   #83
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Here I've cleaned up the ship's name with a better font.

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Old April 25 2013, 01:49 AM   #84
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^ I half expected to see a zoom in on the bridge, just like in "The Cage"!

Speaking of which...care to tackle what that bridge might look like?
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Old April 25 2013, 02:07 AM   #85
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I have two ideas about where the bridge could be. For me it's at the uppermost level of the main section and towards the front. So I think it's just before the hull starts to slope down to nose or it's located between the Long Range Comm Array (the rectangle just behind the upper bow light) and the coffin like thingy that houses the deep space telescope.

I haven't really given any thought to what the bridge might look like.

Note I avoided any bow windows, but I suppose that could be changed.

As for the interior I don't envision many spacious areas within the ship. I see it as somewhat similar to a submarine where a lot of the habitable areas are squeezed and snaked in among big and bulky mechanicals. The nose and nav-deflector pod are crammed with all kinds of sensing systems, the pod being an area rarely entered except for periodic inspection and maintenance. The aft support section is full of drive and ship's support systems---not hot and uncomfortable like old ship boiler rooms, but not the most welcoming areas for most people beyond operational purposes. Besides the pod no one would go up or down into the support stuts except for periodic inspection and maintenance. I don't see the bridge as a familiar circular affair.

My design isn't too far removed from what I'd have liked to see in ENT. Imagine if they had opted to have a Trek series that didn't look immediately familiar and practically interchangeable with what had just come before.
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Old April 25 2013, 11:22 PM   #86
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Old April 26 2013, 06:15 AM   #87
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Nice! The only thing throwing off the realism for me in that last pic is the windows. Any amount of sunlight would completely overwhelm the internal lights. But it's still a great pic!
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Old April 26 2013, 06:29 AM   #88
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I'm going to add a bit more detail to the inside of the hangar bay. I'm also working on a design for a small landing craft I can show.
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Old April 28 2013, 09:32 PM   #89
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A mid 21st century landing craft, this one assigned to the U.E.S.S. Valiant. Again I tried for something that looked like it could have been designed back then and look somewhat less evolved than TOS spaceship design. Instead of wings I slapped on two bulky looking anti-grav generators, There is a sensor dome on top and a bulky looking impulse drive at the aft end.



As a starting point I wanted something that tied in design wise with the Valiant. I also had MJ's initial concept for a shuttlecraft in mind as well as period concept sketches for speculative spacecraft. I was also thinking of some of the hardware seen in sic-fi film and television of the period.
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Old April 28 2013, 10:08 PM   #90
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What would you think of giving it a few VTOL lifting body details?

http://www.astronautix.com/graphics/h/hl203vw.gif
http://area51specialprojects.com/images/ecn2359.jpg
http://www.air-and-space.com/2009052...20rear%20l.jpg
Or even a more "DC-X" idea that takes its looks from your central rocket but functions like a tail-landing DC-X:
http://www.astronautix.com/graphics/x/x33p4.jpg
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