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Old March 11 2013, 04:27 PM   #76
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The stuff about Kirk lying about something?
I've put spoiler tags around what I can. I'm sorry if the conversation assumed certain things. Won't happen again.
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Old March 11 2013, 04:39 PM   #77
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Thanks. I realize it wasn't done deliberately, and I'm know I'm asking for trouble looking in these threads so close to release as more and more detailed info comes out.
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Old March 11 2013, 04:52 PM   #78
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Thanks. I realize it wasn't done deliberately, and I'm know I'm asking for trouble looking in these threads so close to release as more and more detailed info comes out.
I stared at the 38-minute preview thread for 5 minutes before I decided to go in and get the information. I remember going into Insurrection blind, knowing nothing except it was about a "fountain of youth." That was satisfying because I wasn't looking for any plot points, everything surprised me. Contrast that to hearing that Vulcan had been destroyed in the last film and I wasn't shocked at all, the suspense didn't build. Still, I couldn't help myself and I had to get the skinny. I went against everything I have experienced. Maybe I will be more disciplined during the making of the third movie.
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Old March 11 2013, 05:03 PM   #79
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I'm not gonna read anything else, I promise.

I'll get it.
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Old March 11 2013, 06:41 PM   #80
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For that Newton-type starship, I read NCC-07. I am not sure what that is to the left of the 7. It's possible that a number was supposed to exist between the 7 and the (X). How else to explain the strange arrangement of the registry? I am frustrated that i am not able to read the name.
Boosting the contrast, there appears to be a dark smudge in between the 7 and whatever that last digit is. It's as if there was a number there and it was either removed or has faded away for some reason.

Maybe just a dash?

NCC-07-B ?


The registry is NCC-0718

(the Kelvin was NCC-0514)
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Old March 12 2013, 08:12 PM   #81
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Looking back on it, in the series, we can see Kirk was his own man out on patrol, but that was part of the Hornblower idea, wasn't it? An interpid human making his best judgement calls away from the chain of command and permission. I never got the sense - in the 79 anyway - that Kirk was young rebel troubling the grown ups. The punky rebel trope.

That's what I'm picking up now in these movie from our time. We're all ironic and psychodrama-y, so the punky rebel succeeding against the hidebound institution is "in." Okay. Not my thing, for whatever reason, but there it is.
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Old March 12 2013, 08:16 PM   #82
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But Kirk in the movie is nearly a decade younger than in the series. Surely people mature from their mid-twenties to their mid-thirties (at least in theory).
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Old March 12 2013, 08:25 PM   #83
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But Kirk in the movie is nearly a decade younger than in the series. Surely people mature from their mid-twenties to their mid-thirties (at least in theory).
I guess my biggest problem with the Kirk character is that we're told he's a genius but never are we really shown he's a genius. He follows breadcrumbs that are laid out in the open to get to the conclusion (i.e. he's lucky). I'm hoping that with Into Darkness that we see a more fully formed character that comes up with solutions on his own. More that he's in control of events rather than being swept up in them.
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Old March 12 2013, 10:08 PM   #84
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Well, I never take the genius label seriously anymore (hell, according to IQ scores, I qualify as a "genius", and I'm hardly that), so that didn't bother me much.

I think a lot of people are disappointed because a throwaway line in a pilot that was not likely meant to air (the airing of TV pilots is now pretty standard but was once unusual) is not matched by the onscreen portrayal of Kirk as a young man in his twenties. And even if the throwaway line is worth conceding, that Kirk was not the one who grew up in the alternate timeline. In broad strokes, the characters are similar, with the caveat that Pine's Kirk is a decade less mature and experienced than Shatner's Kirk was when we first met him. That gives the filmmakers a lot of leeway in how they want to portray the characters, as far as I'm concerned. YMMV
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Well, I never take the genius label seriously anymore (hell, according to IQ scores, I qualify as a "genius", and I'm hardly that), so that didn't bother me much.

I think a lot of people are disappointed because a throwaway line in a pilot that was not likely meant to air (the airing of TV pilots is now pretty standard but was once unusual) is not matched by the onscreen portrayal of Kirk as a young man in his twenties. And even if the throwaway line is worth conceding, that Kirk was not the one who grew up in the alternate timeline. In broad strokes, the characters are similar, with the caveat that Pine's Kirk is a decade less mature and experienced than Shatner's Kirk was when we first met him. That gives the filmmakers a lot of leeway in how they want to portray the characters, as far as I'm concerned. YMMV
I was actually talking about the Pike line from the new Star Trek 2009 about Kirk wanting to be the only "genius level offender".
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Old March 12 2013, 11:01 PM   #86
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Well, I never take the genius label seriously anymore (hell, according to IQ scores, I qualify as a "genius", and I'm hardly that), so that didn't bother me much.

I think a lot of people are disappointed because a throwaway line in a pilot that was not likely meant to air (the airing of TV pilots is now pretty standard but was once unusual) is not matched by the onscreen portrayal of Kirk as a young man in his twenties. And even if the throwaway line is worth conceding, that Kirk was not the one who grew up in the alternate timeline. In broad strokes, the characters are similar, with the caveat that Pine's Kirk is a decade less mature and experienced than Shatner's Kirk was when we first met him. That gives the filmmakers a lot of leeway in how they want to portray the characters, as far as I'm concerned. YMMV
I was actually talking about the Pike line from the new Star Trek 2009 about Kirk wanting to be the only "genius level offender".
I'm not altogether sure that the line was meant to be taken as Gospel Truth, any more than Mitchell's "stack of books with legs" crack was in the TOS pilot. Putting Pike's line in context:
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I looked up your file while you were
drooling on the floor. Your aptitude
tests were off the charts-- what is it,
d'you like being the only Genius Level
repeat-offender in the midwest?

KIRK
Maybe I love it.
Kirk's aptitude-test scores may well have been quite high, but the exchange sounds more than a little sarcastic.
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Old March 13 2013, 12:30 AM   #87
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That's how I took that exchange.
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Old March 13 2013, 02:01 AM   #88
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Now farm animals, on the other hand...
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Old March 14 2013, 07:05 AM   #89
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Bad Robot not know how to design Federation starships?
Some fans: "We want something new."

Is this any different to Reliant in ST II having a roll bar. And its nacelles underneath?
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Old March 14 2013, 12:54 PM   #90
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How would having two engineering hulls and navigational deflectors be a problem? No one complined when they cropped up on Federation ships in Trek videogames during the 90's. In fact, they look pretty damn cool.

I notice also that, as well as the new TOS-style bridge dome, this Newton's registry is (unlike the ones in the last movie) written in the same font as the Enterprise's.
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