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Old March 8 2013, 01:48 AM   #16
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Re: How far has Starfleet explored

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I remember on that special that Bob Picardo hosted just before the "Voyager" premiere, it was said that 7% of the galaxy had been explored around the time of TOS, and an additional 15% around TNG.

Not sure what their source for this was.

I think the quote from Wesley was that 19% of the galaxy was charted. Over a million stars have been observed and charted today...out of 200-400 billion stars. Kind of makes you feel small.

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Old March 8 2013, 02:33 AM   #17
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Re: How far has Starfleet explored

I know right? The distances between galaxies, the number of stars, it's unimaginable. While the manned missions we've carried out get all the press, it's the unmanned missions that really take the first couple of steps forward. If the Enterprise is running into all of those things in KNOWN space, imagine what Starfleet probes or deep space science ships would encounter in unknown space?
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Old March 8 2013, 11:31 AM   #18
Re: How far has Starfleet explored

Remember in that DS9 episode, The Olympia was assigned to an eight year mission in deep space with no contact with home.
Yet "Deep Space" 9 itself was located in relatively well known space, casting doubt on the relevance of the term. And TOS often featured ships failing to make contact for the better part of a year, despite supposedly operating in well-known space. So the Olympia example might not be quite as extreme as it seems, although it's a good one.

I think the quote from Wesley was that 19% of the galaxy was charted.
Wesley indeed uses the word:

"We've only charted nineteen percent of our galaxy."
Kosinski in "Where No One" says "charted", too:

"In three centuries of space flight, we've charted just eleven percent of our galaxy."
But apparently, charting is something you do with starships, as in TOS "Corbomite Maneuver" where the taking of photographs of the sky is referred to as "star mapping". Presumably, then, mere telescope operations from Earth don't meet the criteria of our heroes, possibly explaining the low percentages. It may well simply be an issue of obscuring: you have to fly around obstacles to get a proper view (and a parallax reading). And even a single properly directed long range mission may add several percentage points by offering a convenient angle for photography.

Then again, "charting" may call for even stricter criteria, such as getting some idea of what planets and other debris might be found around the star. This we know requires actual starship or probe visits ("Doomsday Machine", ST2).

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