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Old June 7 2014, 11:29 PM   #31
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Re: How much did Voyager know of the Dominion as of "Caretaker"?

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Would Janeway have known that Picard and crew were shuttled to System J-25 in the Delta Quadrant, courtesy of Q? I cannot believe Voyager and the rest of the fleet wouldn't have known that.
In the DS9 episode "Q-Less," Sisko mentions that he'd attended Starfleet briefings on the Q entity some time prior to that story -- it's very likely (especially in the aftermath of Wolf 359) that the details surrounding the System J-25 incident would've been included in these sessions.
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Old June 13 2014, 03:35 AM   #32
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As vast as space is, it would be a waste of time and resources looking for people you aren't sure are out there. It was a billion to one chance they found the Equinox.
Agreed. Janeway did the thing that any normal person would do- set a course for home. Setting a course for the Bajoran wormhole (or start wandering randomly looking for other Caretaker survivors- if you wanted to find the Equinox [not that Janeway knew it was in the DQ at all] you'd do exactly what Janeway did- head towards Earth in a straight line) would have been absolute folly, given that she would have just been briefed for there was a hostile, technologically superior government right on top of it that had just demonstrated it's ability to wipe out Galaxy class starships (to say nothing of all the colonists they wiped out prior to 'The Jem'Hadar').

This does not need to be shown onscreen to be assumed (likewise for Voyager receiving intelligence and information about the Dominion War- I'm sure it happened, it just didn't happen in a way that was germane to the stories we witnessed, so it wasn't shown onscreen. Y'know, like >99% of everything that happened onboard Voyager wasn't shown onscreen.

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The DQ is vast and Voyager only carved a very narrow hairline through it, so even with the knowledge that the Borg were somewhere in the quadrant, they couldn't have known for a fact that their course would impinge upon Borg territory until it actually happened.
However in 'Scorpion' there was a line where Chakotay says: "This could be it- Borg space." which basically implies that, logically, they knew the Borg were in or near the DQ, they knew that they were likely a major power to rival or exceed the Federation, so it stood to reason they might come across them sooner or later- and they were right.
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Old June 13 2014, 01:38 PM   #33
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^Which is entirely consistent with my statement. "Couldn't have known for a fact" is not synonymous with "Did not even consider the possibility." It means they were aware of the possibility but didn't know for certain that it would happen until it did happen. Possibility and certainty are two different things.
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Old June 16 2014, 01:12 AM   #34
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^Which is entirely consistent with my statement. "Couldn't have known for a fact" is not synonymous with "Did not even consider the possibility." It means they were aware of the possibility but didn't know for certain that it would happen until it did happen. Possibility and certainty are two different things.
Sorry, did I say 'However'? I meant 'Also'.
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