your top five (low five?) least favourite characters

Dal Rassak · February 28 2013, 05:17 PM

(in no particular order)

1. Leeta (barbie doll simpleton)
2. Ziyal (annoyingly naive)
3. Garak (annoyingly foppish)
4. Zek (too much of a caricature)
5. Winn (sanctimonious self-serving insert favoured
expletive here...)

LobsterAfternoon · February 28 2013, 07:52 PM

1. Vic Fontaine- I literally skip every scene he's in. I've seen like 5 minutes of "Paper Moon" because of that turd.
2. Ziyal - agree with the OP, so doe-eyed it made her impossible to believe.
3. Brunt
4. Grand Nagus
5. Quark's Mom

tomalak301 · February 28 2013, 08:09 PM

1. Barial (I like him, but he did turn bland)
2. Shakkarr (Kind of a wasted character after season 3)
3. Ishka (Just annoying)
4. Winn (Was she a good villian? Yeah, but I found her annoying more than menacing)
5. Rom (He got better but still very annoying)

HaventGotALife · February 28 2013, 11:21 PM

1. Winn -- She was one-dimensional past the second season.
2. Ishka
3. Zek
4. Brunt
5. Leeta -- pretty, but annoying.

DalekJim · February 28 2013, 11:33 PM

1) Ishka
2) Zek
3) Bareil
4) Shakaar
5) Leeta

Winn was an EXCELLENT character in seasons 1-5, one of my favourites. She became 2d for no evil in the later seasons though. I like to think of her and Dukat as the amazing characters they were, rather than what they became.

teacake · March 1 2013, 01:25 AM

I see we can include Bareil and Shakaar which is good because I can't think of anyone else. I had plenty of characters I wasn't too fond of the first run through, I might have even put Kira on the list. But I love and appreciate them all now after 4 rewatches. I'm a huge ferengi fan.

Maybe want to bitch slap Ziyal a little still..

JirinPanthosa · March 1 2013, 05:56 AM

1. Brunt

What's worse than over the top stereotype Ferengi? The one dimensional antagonist to over the top stereotype Ferengi. And it's not Jeffrey Combs' fault, he was wonderful. You know the South Park character 'Scott, the Dick'? That was Brunt, only not a parody.

2. Vic Fontaine

Even the DS9 writers could not convince me that all these people would be obsessed with a holodeck recreation of a crooner stereotype. He is my biggest 'Netflix skip'

3. Alexander

Quarter human anti-warrior to incompetent idiot who suddenly wishes he could be a warrior. Ugh.

4. Late series Zek

I thought in his first appearance he was pretty good, but he became such a cartoon later on it's absurd.

5. Joran Dax

His episodes were always awkward, and he always seemed to me more like a bad guy on a crime procedural than a believable killer.

Dishonorable mention: The Intendant

Ooh, Alt-Kira is a lesbian hedonist, how ratings-interesting.

Why so much Winn hate? She didn't go downhill until the last ten episodes IMO. Until then she was the perfect politician. One of the most realistic villains in the series. I see Winn in the entire US senate.

Muldfeld · March 1 2013, 10:43 AM

The worst character of all time is Ezri. I hated her in 1998/1999 and still hate her every time I rewatch her. It's tragic the amount of episodes they wasted writing for her in that last season instead of, say, Garak or Dukat or Zek or pretty much anyone!

I also didn't like the crazy geniuses that Bashir discovered in Seasons 6 and 7.

Didn't care for anyone in the Mirror universe, except Sisko, who was beautifully performed with fantastic eccentricity by Avery Brooks!

teacake · March 1 2013, 10:51 AM

Muldfeld wrote:

The worst character of all time is Ezri.

That doesn't sound right.

As in.. WHAT.

Sonja · March 1 2013, 10:51 AM

1) Fontain
2) Keiko
3) Shakaar
4) Bareil

Can't think of a fifth. Winn was for sure unpleasant, but she perfectly fit into the series. Leeta was not the sharpest tool in the box, but I have no problems with her.

Muldfeld · March 1 2013, 10:57 AM

Do you mean why do I hate Ezri?

Well, I think the main problem had something to do with the actress who wasn't good enough. Jadzia was my least favorite before her, but Ezri was annoying. Her constant complaining about space sickness and nervousness was supposed to feel honest, but wasn't properly conveyed. Any episode focussing upon her was lousy. I'm shocked to read some of these least favorite characters. I LOVED Zek, Fontain, Brunt ("Say hello to these POOR PEOPLE!"), and Wynn. Ziyal didn't bug me much, but I really liked her toughness conveyed by that first actress in her first 2 Season 4 episodes; I wish they hadn't changed her, but I guess they wanted someone more womanly for Garak; the second actress wasn't given much, but she did great work on a Season 3 "Millennium" episode. I guess we all liked different things, but I'm surprised more people didn't hate Ezri. I hated that Bashir's last few episodes were spent focussing on her; I kept thinking, "You can do better!"

Muldfeld · March 1 2013, 10:59 AM

JirinPanthosa wrote:

1. Brunt

What's worse than over the top stereotype Ferengi? The one dimensional antagonist to over the top stereotype Ferengi. And it's not Jeffrey Combs' fault, he was wonderful. You know the South Park character 'Scott, the Dick'? That was Brunt, only not a parody.

2. Vic Fontaine

Even the DS9 writers could not convince me that all these people would be obsessed with a holodeck recreation of a crooner stereotype. He is my biggest 'Netflix skip'

3. Alexander

Quarter human anti-warrior to incompetent idiot who suddenly wishes he could be a warrior. Ugh.

4. Late series Zek

I thought in his first appearance he was pretty good, but he became such a cartoon later on it's absurd.

5. Joran Dax

His episodes were always awkward, and he always seemed to me more like a bad guy on a crime procedural than a believable killer.

Dishonorable mention: The Intendant

Ooh, Alt-Kira is a lesbian hedonist, how ratings-interesting.

Why so much Winn hate? She didn't go downhill until the last ten episodes IMO. Until then she was the perfect politician. One of the most realistic villains in the series. I see Winn in the entire US senate.

I agree about Alexander. I remember being upset when DS9 changed Alexander, after Worf's acceptance of his son's difference on TNG was so moving and more interesting.

DS9forever · March 1 2013, 03:33 PM

^ Alexander was never interesting or moving, especially on TNG.

Deranged Nasat · March 1 2013, 03:44 PM

Alexander's change in perspective was annoying, especially seeing as it wasn't actually necessary; the story of Sons and Daughters wasn't dependent on Alexander having a change of heart. It's wartime, and a rather unambiguous war at that, where the stakes are massive - either defend yourself against the Dominion, or become vassals of the Founders. The idea that Alexander might enlist for the duration of the war therefore makes sense; they didn't have to make his earlier character arc pointless by seeming to suggest that he now wants to be a warrior after all.

He could easily have told Worf: "I still have no intention of being a "good Klingon" and I still don't care for fitting into your culture - I'm just here because I'm helping with the war effort, and this is a just war. That's all".

Gone4aDuck · March 1 2013, 06:49 PM

DS9forever wrote:

^ Alexander was never interesting or moving, especially on TNG.

I can't remember any kid on any Star Trek that didn't need a good slap.

February 28 2013, 05:17 PM	#1
Dal Rassak Lieutenant Commander Location: Terok Nor	your top five (low five?) least favourite characters (in no particular order) 1. Leeta (barbie doll simpleton) 2. Ziyal (annoyingly naive) 3. Garak (annoyingly foppish) 4. Zek (too much of a caricature) 5. Winn (sanctimonious self-serving insert favoured expletive here...) __________________ "Trust is good; control is better"

February 28 2013, 07:52 PM	#2
LobsterAfternoon Commander	Re: your top five (low five?) least favourite characters 1. Vic Fontaine- I literally skip every scene he's in. I've seen like 5 minutes of "Paper Moon" because of that turd. 2. Ziyal - agree with the OP, so doe-eyed it made her impossible to believe. 3. Brunt 4. Grand Nagus 5. Quark's Mom

February 28 2013, 08:09 PM	#3
tomalak301 Admiral Location: Bay Area, CA	Re: your top five (low five?) least favourite characters 1. Barial (I like him, but he did turn bland) 2. Shakkarr (Kind of a wasted character after season 3) 3. Ishka (Just annoying) 4. Winn (Was she a good villian? Yeah, but I found her annoying more than menacing) 5. Rom (He got better but still very annoying) __________________ Twitter

February 28 2013, 11:21 PM	#4
HaventGotALife Captain Location: Michigan	Re: your top five (low five?) least favourite characters 1. Winn -- She was one-dimensional past the second season. 2. Ishka 3. Zek 4. Brunt 5. Leeta -- pretty, but annoying. __________________ To me, Star Trek's stories are about the depth and complexity of human relationships. It studies us and asks us to look within ourselves, to relate, to ask how would we respond to all that is in their world?

February 28 2013, 11:33 PM	#5
DalekJim Fleet Captain Location: Great Britain	Re: your top five (low five?) least favourite characters 1) Ishka 2) Zek 3) Bareil 4) Shakaar 5) Leeta Winn was an EXCELLENT character in seasons 1-5, one of my favourites. She became 2d for no evil in the later seasons though. I like to think of her and Dukat as the amazing characters they were, rather than what they became. __________________ The Paradox Machine - My blog "Four things cannot be hidden - love, smoke, a pillar of fire and a man striding across the open bled." - Dune Messiah by Frank Herbert

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March 1 2013, 01:25 AM	#6
teacake Admiral Location: Militant Janeway True Path Devotees Compound. With Sehlats.	Re: your top five (low five?) least favourite characters I see we can include Bareil and Shakaar which is good because I can't think of anyone else. I had plenty of characters I wasn't too fond of the first run through, I might have even put Kira on the list. But I love and appreciate them all now after 4 rewatches. I'm a huge ferengi fan. Maybe want to bitch slap Ziyal a little still.. __________________ Rider: I can't believe you'd kill me for a field of empty holes. J'onn: It's all I have. ■ ■ ■ Janeway does Melbourne

March 1 2013, 05:56 AM	#7
JirinPanthosa Captain	Re: your top five (low five?) least favourite characters 1. Brunt What's worse than over the top stereotype Ferengi? The one dimensional antagonist to over the top stereotype Ferengi. And it's not Jeffrey Combs' fault, he was wonderful. You know the South Park character 'Scott, the Dick'? That was Brunt, only not a parody. 2. Vic Fontaine Even the DS9 writers could not convince me that all these people would be obsessed with a holodeck recreation of a crooner stereotype. He is my biggest 'Netflix skip' 3. Alexander Quarter human anti-warrior to incompetent idiot who suddenly wishes he could be a warrior. Ugh. 4. Late series Zek I thought in his first appearance he was pretty good, but he became such a cartoon later on it's absurd. 5. Joran Dax His episodes were always awkward, and he always seemed to me more like a bad guy on a crime procedural than a believable killer. Dishonorable mention: The Intendant Ooh, Alt-Kira is a lesbian hedonist, how ratings-interesting. Why so much Winn hate? She didn't go downhill until the last ten episodes IMO. Until then she was the perfect politician. One of the most realistic villains in the series. I see Winn in the entire US senate.

March 1 2013, 10:43 AM	#8
Muldfeld Ensign	Re: your top five (low five?) least favourite characters The worst character of all time is Ezri. I hated her in 1998/1999 and still hate her every time I rewatch her. It's tragic the amount of episodes they wasted writing for her in that last season instead of, say, Garak or Dukat or Zek or pretty much anyone! I also didn't like the crazy geniuses that Bashir discovered in Seasons 6 and 7. Didn't care for anyone in the Mirror universe, except Sisko, who was beautifully performed with fantastic eccentricity by Avery Brooks!

March 1 2013, 10:51 AM	#10
Sonja Ensign Location: Europe	Re: your top five (low five?) least favourite characters 1) Fontain 2) Keiko 3) Shakaar 4) Bareil Can't think of a fifth. Winn was for sure unpleasant, but she perfectly fit into the series. Leeta was not the sharpest tool in the box, but I have no problems with her.

March 1 2013, 10:57 AM	#11
Muldfeld Ensign	Re: your top five (low five?) least favourite characters Do you mean why do I hate Ezri? Well, I think the main problem had something to do with the actress who wasn't good enough. Jadzia was my least favorite before her, but Ezri was annoying. Her constant complaining about space sickness and nervousness was supposed to feel honest, but wasn't properly conveyed. Any episode focussing upon her was lousy. I'm shocked to read some of these least favorite characters. I LOVED Zek, Fontain, Brunt ("Say hello to these POOR PEOPLE!"), and Wynn. Ziyal didn't bug me much, but I really liked her toughness conveyed by that first actress in her first 2 Season 4 episodes; I wish they hadn't changed her, but I guess they wanted someone more womanly for Garak; the second actress wasn't given much, but she did great work on a Season 3 "Millennium" episode. I guess we all liked different things, but I'm surprised more people didn't hate Ezri. I hated that Bashir's last few episodes were spent focussing on her; I kept thinking, "You can do better!"

March 1 2013, 03:33 PM	#13
DS9forever Captain	Re: your top five (low five?) least favourite characters ^ Alexander was never interesting or moving, especially on TNG.

March 1 2013, 03:44 PM	#14
Deranged Nasat Vice Admiral Location: Warped off into the sunset. With fond memories of most of you, and not a little sorrow at leaving.	Re: your top five (low five?) least favourite characters Alexander's change in perspective was annoying, especially seeing as it wasn't actually necessary; the story of Sons and Daughters wasn't dependent on Alexander having a change of heart. It's wartime, and a rather unambiguous war at that, where the stakes are massive - either defend yourself against the Dominion, or become vassals of the Founders. The idea that Alexander might enlist for the duration of the war therefore makes sense; they didn't have to make his earlier character arc pointless by seeming to suggest that he now wants to be a warrior after all. He could easily have told Worf: "I still have no intention of being a "good Klingon" and I still don't care for fitting into your culture - I'm just here because I'm helping with the war effort, and this is a just war. That's all". __________________ We are all the sum of our tears. Too little and the ground is not fertile and nothing can grow there; too much, the best of us is washed away.