NX class ship in DS9?

los2188 · February 28 2013, 03:36 AM

I was watching the DS9 episode Tears of the Prophets recently and in the scene where the Federation was about to conquer Cardassia, I noticed that one of the ships looked exactly like an NX class ship. Has anyone else noticed that, or am I just mistaken. I'm sorry that I don't have a screen shot of it, but I was hoping that there might be someone that can confirm or deny this for me. Thanks!

Pavonis · February 28 2013, 04:44 AM

It was probably an Akira-class ship.

C.E. Evans · February 28 2013, 04:52 AM

DS9 ended two years before ENT debuted, so the odds of an NX-class ship in the former is kinda, well, zero.

As Pavonis said, you might have seen an Akira-class ship since the NX-class was based on that design and modified.

Deranged Nasat · February 28 2013, 09:06 AM

Akira-class ships were indeed visible in Tears of the Prophets.

In-universe, I suppose we have to assume that the Akira design was a homage on the part of Starfleet to the NX-class?

In reality, the NX-01 was based on the Akira design, which was first introduced in First Contact.

Timo · February 28 2013, 02:44 PM

Starfleet does homages? Doesn't sound all that likely.

The common design features between the two would appear to be the use of twin booms, the inclusion of "turbocharger caps" on top of those, and a bow cut in the saucer. The last is the least "homage"-like of the features, as it is typical of all the ships we first saw in ST:FC, and has for several decades been a fan favorite for making the neutrally round saucers look more menacing...

Twin booms are found in many fan or RPG designs, too, and indeed NX most closely resembles FASA's Loknar class in configuration (although Loknar had the forward ends of the booms underneath the saucer rather than atop). So the "turbochargers" (a feature borrowed from the twin-boom P-38 Lightning fighterplane of WWII for purely aesthetic reasons) are the one unique connection between the ENT and ST:FC/DS9 ships. A deliberate one in Paramount terms, of course, but do these fancy shapes perhaps also fill the same fictional function in NX and Akira in in-universe terms?

As could be expected, those features were never assigned a clear on-screen role in either version. At one point, the Enterprise spat phase beams out of them, FWIW...

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heavy lids · February 28 2013, 02:54 PM

Probably an Akira.

TheGodBen · February 28 2013, 03:11 PM

5 responses and no images? For shame!

Akira class

The Akira you probably saw

Dick_Valentine · March 1 2013, 03:16 AM

You probably saw an Akira....

Upside down...

Mr. Laser Beam · March 1 2013, 03:17 AM

Deranged Nasat wrote:

In-universe, I suppose we have to assume that the Akira design was a homage on the part of Starfleet to the NX-class

I have no problem with that.

February 28 2013, 03:36 AM	#1
los2188 Commander Location: North Carolina	NX class ship in DS9? I was watching the DS9 episode Tears of the Prophets recently and in the scene where the Federation was about to conquer Cardassia, I noticed that one of the ships looked exactly like an NX class ship. Has anyone else noticed that, or am I just mistaken. I'm sorry that I don't have a screen shot of it, but I was hoping that there might be someone that can confirm or deny this for me. Thanks! __________________ Darling, you remain as aesthetically pleasing as the first day we met. I believe I am the most fortunate sentient in this sector of the galaxy.

February 28 2013, 04:44 AM	#2
Pavonis Commodore Location: South Dakota	Re: NX class ship in DS9? It was probably an Akira-class ship.

February 28 2013, 04:52 AM	#3
C.E. Evans Vice Admiral Location: Saint Louis (aka Defiance)	Re: NX class ship in DS9? DS9 ended two years before ENT debuted, so the odds of an NX-class ship in the former is kinda, well, zero. As Pavonis said, you might have seen an Akira-class ship since the NX-class was based on that design and modified. __________________ "Shout, shout, let it all out..."

February 28 2013, 09:06 AM	#4
Deranged Nasat Vice Admiral Location: Warped off into the sunset. With fond memories of most of you, and not a little sorrow at leaving.	Re: NX class ship in DS9? Akira-class ships were indeed visible in Tears of the Prophets. In-universe, I suppose we have to assume that the Akira design was a homage on the part of Starfleet to the NX-class? In reality, the NX-01 was based on the Akira design, which was first introduced in First Contact. __________________ We are all the sum of our tears. Too little and the ground is not fertile and nothing can grow there; too much, the best of us is washed away.

February 28 2013, 02:44 PM	#5
Timo Admiral	Re: NX class ship in DS9? Starfleet does homages? Doesn't sound all that likely. The common design features between the two would appear to be the use of twin booms, the inclusion of "turbocharger caps" on top of those, and a bow cut in the saucer. The last is the least "homage"-like of the features, as it is typical of all the ships we first saw in ST:FC, and has for several decades been a fan favorite for making the neutrally round saucers look more menacing... Twin booms are found in many fan or RPG designs, too, and indeed NX most closely resembles FASA's Loknar class in configuration (although Loknar had the forward ends of the booms underneath the saucer rather than atop). So the "turbochargers" (a feature borrowed from the twin-boom P-38 Lightning fighterplane of WWII for purely aesthetic reasons) are the one unique connection between the ENT and ST:FC/DS9 ships. A deliberate one in Paramount terms, of course, but do these fancy shapes perhaps also fill the same fictional function in NX and Akira in in-universe terms? As could be expected, those features were never assigned a clear on-screen role in either version. At one point, the Enterprise spat phase beams out of them, FWIW... Timo Saloniemi

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February 28 2013, 02:54 PM	#6
heavy lids Lieutenant Commander Location: Denver	Re: NX class ship in DS9? Probably an Akira. __________________ "Divine intervention is...unlikely" - The Doctor

February 28 2013, 03:11 PM	#7
TheGodBen Rear Admiral Location: Ireland	Re: NX class ship in DS9? 5 responses and no images? For shame! Akira class The Akira you probably saw __________________ *...so many different suns...*

March 1 2013, 03:16 AM	#8
Dick_Valentine Lieutenant Commander Location: Birmingham, UK (Not Alabama)	Re: NX class ship in DS9? You probably saw an Akira.... Upside down... __________________ I don't care what anyone thinks, when I hit the iceberg the iceberg sinks!