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Old February 28 2013, 03:47 AM   #16
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Re: The only unknown actor from TOS...

^Which doesn't make the belief any less wrong. The eyes prove it's not Vetri.
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Old February 28 2013, 04:12 AM   #17
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Re: The only unknown actor from TOS...

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I've been a Trek fan since the '70s, and I don't remember ever hearing that.
...and? Were you aware of every bit of Trek trivia or discussion held in that decade, or covered every possible subject? You may not have heard of the Vetri story, but others were aware of it.
Relax.

All he said was he hadn't heard that story.

No reason to get personal.
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Old February 28 2013, 03:17 PM   #18
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Re: The only unknown actor from TOS...

Maybe someone should correct the Memory Alpha article.
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Old March 1 2013, 06:05 PM   #19
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Re: The only unknown actor from TOS...

"Vetri and Vetri, what is Vetri?!?" We wandered off the path here. Who is this uncredited guest from "Kirk Scores Again".... uh, I mean "Wink of an Eye"?

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Old March 1 2013, 06:41 PM   #20
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Re: The only unknown actor from TOS...

If MA can't find out, we might never know.
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Old March 1 2013, 07:08 PM   #21
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Re: The only unknown actor from TOS...

She's an extra. Extras generally don't get their names recorded for posterity.
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Old March 10 2013, 08:23 AM   #22
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^Which doesn't make the belief any less wrong. The eyes prove it's not Vetri.
But... Victoria Vetri, aka Angela Dorian (An.Dorian?) did got into space with NASA astronauts!

http://news.discovery.com/space/priv...oon-120615.htm
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Old March 10 2013, 03:31 PM   #23
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^Which doesn't make the belief any less wrong. The eyes prove it's not Vetri.
But... Victoria Vetri, aka Angela Dorian (An.Dorian?) did got into space with NASA astronauts!

http://news.discovery.com/space/priv...oon-120615.htm
Wow. I love finding out new things about space exploration history.
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Old March 11 2013, 01:53 AM   #24
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We're off the subject ... again.

Someone will figure out who that young lady is. And, showing my sexist side, she really is quite attractive.

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Old March 11 2013, 02:24 AM   #25
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Someone will figure out who that young lady is.
I don't think they will. Again, she was an extra. She had no lines, and was just there to fill out the group. Extras' names usually don't get recorded for posterity. That's why we still don't know who really played Isis.

And I don't think there's anything sexist about finding someone attractive. It's a natural part of human interaction. It's only sexist if you ignore the rest of their attributes.
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Old March 11 2013, 07:16 AM   #26
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Re: The only unknown actor from TOS...

You can't call Isis an extra, to say nothing of being "just there to fill out the group." This was not a crowd scene. She has a character name, she gets a close-up and a medium shot just of her, a smashing costume unique to her, and she plays a scene with Teri Garr. She's just a tiny step below the unfortunate cabaret dancer in "Wolf in the Fold," in that she got no lines. They'd have to pay her more if she spoke.

If only they'd listed her in the credits!
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Old March 11 2013, 07:26 AM   #27
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Re: The only unknown actor from TOS...

The Isis character is what's commonly known as a "non-speaking part", not an extra per se.

FWIW, the way a film crew works, the Director typically directs the actors and the 1st A.D. gives direction to the "background" (read extras).
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Old March 11 2013, 07:52 AM   #28
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Re: The only unknown actor from TOS...

So what about this female Scalosian, was she an extra or was hers really a non-speaking part?

Consider Compton's death scene, transcribed by http://www.chakoteya.net/StarTrek/68.htm:
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(Two Scalosian males are there.)
RAEL: Stun.
(Kirk falls gently to the floor. Compton enters and attacks the man with the weapon. He is knocked down for his loyalty.)
RAEL: You were ordered to stop him. Why did you disobey?
COMPTON: I tried to stop him. You hurt him.
RAEL: He was violent. He had to be subdued.
COMPTON: He was my captain.
EKOR: Cell damage.
RAEL: (to a young woman) Another will be secured for you.
TrekCore images of those moments are at http://tos.trekcore.com/hd/thumbnail...bum=77&page=21.

This female Scalosian moves forward out of concern for having lost Compton, and she is then directly addressed by Rael. So, extra or non-speaking part?
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Old March 11 2013, 08:22 AM   #29
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This female Scalosian moves moves forward out of concern for having lost Compton, and she is then directly addressed by Rael. So, extra or non-speaking part?
That's a non-speaking role; she's part of the story. It's unnatural to have her be silent, but it was a money-saving thing they had to do. More speaking parts would mean less money for other aspects of the show.
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Old March 12 2013, 04:58 PM   #30
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She made a nodding/acknowledging expression to Rael, so maybe, beside cost savings, they thought that was sufficient. Not everyone can reply verbally, and maybe she wasn't of high enough rank to speak to Rael in their society. (even if it was only five people.)


What about Isis and Sylvia? I think they were the same animal actor, in cat form.
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