who the fff... put Troi in that outfit??

[tighr]

Dream wrote:

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Didn't the VOY writers already do that with the liberated Borg children on that show?

They actually had an episode with a whole colony of liberated Borg. Unity featured the survivors of a destroyed Cube that had their links with the collective severed, adapting to life as individuals again. Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on your perspective) they chose to re-establish their own link and reform themselves as a cooperative, with less nefarious intentions than the Borg themselves.

[Mott the barber]

It was almost Denise Crosby in some variation of those outfits.

Edit: Trivia side note - Yar wears a skant in the final scene of EOF on the horseshoe behind Picard.

[TroiFan4ever]

Mojochi wrote:

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Actually, she needed a better fitting than the S1 skant. That S7 skant was waaaaay more flattering on her



I really could have tolerated her wearing that S7 one the whole time, probably not Tasha or Ro, but a counselor... maybe

Wow. Before I saw that I actually thought Marina Sirtis wore that exact same skant in "All Good Things..." she did for "Encounter at Farpoint".

As far as I'm certain they started putting Troi in a uniform because the viewers like her better in a uniform and since Troi started wearing one since "Chain of Command" Marina Sirtis herself said she preferred being in uniform. I like to place my money that Sirtis spoke up to the producers and said she wanted to start wearing a uniform again...

More episodes of her in this outfit would've been nice however.

[Sadara]

Squiggy wrote:

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No, and when Ens. Ro beamed on board Riker read her the riot act about recognizing uniform regulations and made her remove her [religious] ear ring.

All while Worf was wearing his warrior sash and Troi was mincing about the bridge in her robe.

And in DS9, Nog got away with wearing the Ferengi headgear in uniform.

[Pavonis]

Sadara wrote:

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And in DS9, Nog got away with wearing the Ferengi headgear in uniform.

That head gear may have been Starfleet issued. It did match his uniform all the time. Red to match his shoulders in cadet uniform, and gray to match the shoulders in his officer's uniform.

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Pavonis wrote:

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That head gear may have been Starfleet issued. It did match his uniform all the time. Red to match his shoulders in cadet uniform, and gray to match the shoulders in his officer's uniform.

While possible, doubtful. He was the first Ferengi officer. But it is very likely that this uniform addition would have been approved behind the scenes... would have been nice to have had some clarification!

There was an episode of TNG where Picard told Worf to adjust his baldric.

I did always appreciate seeing alternative uniforms, myself. It does get boring seeing every officer wear the same old thing in every episode, when in real-life militaries you spend most of your time in a service uniform, of which there are several types, and have Class A and other dress uniforms for ceremonial functions. I liked seeing the dress uniforms they would wear when meeting dignitaries or when attending a gala. It would have been nice to see a standard active duty uniform, camouflage-like utilities, that the officers would wear when doing their normal jobs, especially since it could get dirty (like scrubbing the EPS conduits or whatever).

[Sadara]

Pavonis wrote:

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That head gear may have been Starfleet issued. It did match his uniform all the time. Red to match his shoulders in cadet uniform, and gray to match the shoulders in his officer's uniform.

The point is he was allowed to wear it because it was a cultural/religious thing similar to Ro's Bajoran earring that Riker jumped her case for.

[tighr]

Well, to be fair, she was wearing it on the wrong ear in protest. Maybe he'd have been cool with it on the other ear.

[Sadara]

tighr wrote:

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Well, to be fair, she was wearing it on the wrong ear in protest. Maybe he'd have been cool with it on the other ear.

I'm sure protesting would be an issue in uniform. There are many things US soldiers are not allowed to do while in uniform and some things even out of uniform since technically soldiers are on duty 24/7.

[Pavonis]

Sadara wrote:

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The point is he was allowed to wear it because it was a cultural/religious thing similar to Ro's Bajoran earring that Riker jumped her case for.

The difference being that, if Nog's head gear were Starfleet issue, that would make it acceptable by definition. Ro's earring was not Starfleet issue and therefore subject to approval, which Riker decided to revoke, because he didn't like her. He relented later.

[Sadara]

Pavonis wrote:

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The difference being that, if Nog's head gear were Starfleet issue, that would make it acceptable by definition. Ro's earring was not Starfleet issue and therefore subject to approval, which Riker decided to revoke, because he didn't like her. He relented later.

I can see that being an issue. If one culture is allowed to wear cultural items then it should be fair across the board.

[Pavonis]

No, cultural items would have to be decided on a case-by-case basis. What if one culture thinks hauling a large rock on their back continuously is a requirement for the good will of their gods? Should Starfleet allow an officer to constantly haul a boulder around just to be fair? If it interferes with their work, it can't be allowed. Worf's baldric, Ro's earring, and Nog's head dress were all approved, but that doesn't mean that all adornments must be included across the board.

Starfleet doesn't have to be "fair".

[Captrek]

I don't think there's anything unfair about allowing the earring and disallowing the boulder. What would be unfair is disallowing the earring because of some bizarre fringe group's tradition with boulders.

[Sadara]

Pavonis wrote:

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No, cultural items would have to be decided on a case-by-case basis. What if one culture thinks hauling a large rock on their back continuously is a requirement for the good will of their gods? Should Starfleet allow an officer to constantly haul a boulder around just to be fair? If it interferes with their work, it can't be allowed. Worf's baldric, Ro's earring, and Nog's head dress were all approved, but that doesn't mean that all adornments must be included across the board.

Starfleet doesn't have to be "fair".

The boulder is a ridiculous comparison. Nog's headgear and Ro's earring are both items that can be worn and don't interfere with their work. Earrings and boulders are apples and oranges.

[tighr]

Now I want to see an episode where a race carries boulders around to appease their gods. It would make great Trek.