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Did Deep Space Nine limit itself dramatically with the Dominion?
). It changed the game for DS9, and also revitalised the Star Trek universe in a new direction. I certainly don't think it was a bad thing.However, I was just reading a bit of 'The Making Of Deep Space Nine' over the weekend, and something struck me: in the original pitch, one of the things that was underlined as being important about the wormhole is that the Gamma Quadrant is rich in potential aliens we haven't met before in Star Trek, and the frisson of danger with DS9 being next to the wormhole exists because something new could come through at any moment for our heroes to deal with. There was some feeling of this in seasons one and two, with for example the Tosk alien in "Captive Pursuit", the games aliens in "Move Along Home", the refugees in "Sanctuary", etc. It differed only from TNG (and VOY) in that the aliens would unexpectedly come to the station, instead of our people going and finding the aliens, though they did their fair share of that as well in the beginning. But the big thing was, the aliens were (like VOY, in theory) all new ones. The writers were only being held back by their own imaginations. Now, while the introduction of the Jem'Hadar, the Founders, and the Vorta and didn't change that overnight, it did seem to me that later seasons basically made this kind of 'new alien races' aspect impossible. The Gamma Quadrant seemed to be defined purely by the fact that the Dominion are there; and rarely, if ever, was there anybody else. The types of stories that DS9 told had evolved... but did the writers, arguably, dramatically limit themselves by 'closing off', so to speak, the Gamma Quadrant to just being "that place where the Dominion are from"? |
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Location: Michigan USA
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Re: Did Deep Space Nine limit itself dramatically with the Dominion?
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Re: Did Deep Space Nine limit itself dramatically with the Dominion?
I don't see it as a limitation, but rather a different kind of story than in previous and subequent Trek shows, and one that couldn't be resolved in just one or two episodes, IMO.
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Re: Did Deep Space Nine limit itself dramatically with the Dominion?
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Re: Did Deep Space Nine limit itself dramatically with the Dominion?
Stories like Take Me Out to the Holodeck could have easily been done after the war, and might have made more sense. Move these (and others?) outside of the Dominion War time period. Far Beyond the Stars rewritten to some extent outside of the war. The Sound of Her Voice either prior or after the war. Chrysalis with it's romance plot after the war It's Only a Paper Moon with it's PTSD story would be better after, not during, the war. Everyone else is moving on, but not Nog. The Emperor's New Cloak lose altogether, DS9 over milked the mirror universe. Field of Fire with it's murder plot after the war.
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Re: Did Deep Space Nine limit itself dramatically with the Dominion?
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Re: Did Deep Space Nine limit itself dramatically with the Dominion?
This would have given the war its due in time and space, and could have set the direction for the future of Trek (Voyager, Nemesis, etc) in more positive direction
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Re: Did Deep Space Nine limit itself dramatically with the Dominion?
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Re: Did Deep Space Nine limit itself dramatically with the Dominion?
Make it a real 'Totalitarian Federation'. Have more races than just the Gem'Hadar comprise the military. |
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Re: Did Deep Space Nine limit itself dramatically with the Dominion?
![]() Two or three common races with a couple random crazy makeup aliens thrown in here and there wouldn't have been more complicated than the things the audience were expected to remember about the Gem'Hadar or about Bajoran politics. And viewers are already expected to remember a few dozen AQ races. |
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). It changed the game for DS9, and also revitalised the Star Trek universe in a new direction. I certainly don't think it was a bad thing.








