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Old February 26 2013, 07:42 AM   #31
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If you consider the cost of a woman's contraception over the course of her life, verse the one time cost of a vasectomy, there is a better option Gaith.
Unless you are the man getting his testicles surgically disconnected. Then, contraception "is a better option"! Of course, if I suggested a female get her tubes tied for the same reason, I'd be branded as sexist, sadist, barbaric, etc.
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Well if you get this thing off the ground I'm going to the Outer Rim and staying off the grid.
I'll go with you. His "registering for citizenship" sounds a little too Orwellian for me. Many tyrannical empires began with requirements for citizenship. Citizenship should be automatic for all natives of a planet, especially Earth.
So you consider Facebook to be a tyrannical empire then?
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Old February 26 2013, 07:25 PM   #32
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If you consider the cost of a woman's contraception over the course of her life, verse the one time cost of a vasectomy, there is a better option Gaith.
Unless you are the man getting his testicles surgically disconnected. Then, contraception "is a better option"! Of course, if I suggested a female get her tubes tied for the same reason, I'd be branded as sexist, sadist, barbaric, etc.
To be fair, a vasectomy is a quick, noninvasive, in-office procedure that can be reversed. Having the tubes tied is a highly invasive, irreversible procedure that requires general anesthesia and a hospital stay. So, yeah, you need a bit of perspective.

On the other hand, a male pill would be ideal, so that men could begin to have more options the way women do, and so that the burden could be more fairly divided between the sexes.
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Old February 26 2013, 07:26 PM   #33
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Robo-vasectomy. Install a little switch that connects/disconnects the tubes depending on your mood.
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Old February 26 2013, 07:31 PM   #34
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^Brilliant! A little, internal, remote controlled clamp!
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Old February 26 2013, 07:32 PM   #35
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Cyborgs are the new birth control.
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Old February 26 2013, 07:34 PM   #36
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^You make it sound as if we cyborgs are unsexy.
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Old February 26 2013, 07:36 PM   #37
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I intended no such thing.
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Old February 26 2013, 07:38 PM   #38
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^Then you are forgiven.
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Old February 26 2013, 07:42 PM   #39
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I'm just hoping for the day when science forces all humans to be born sterile. And only through a series of rigorous tests and credit checks will you be allowed to have the surgery to become fertile.
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Old February 26 2013, 07:44 PM   #40
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^hmmmm....somehow I suspect there may be a flaw in your plan...
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Old February 26 2013, 07:45 PM   #41
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But there would be way fewer unwanted pregnancies!
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Old February 26 2013, 07:48 PM   #42
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^Yeah, but that can be achieved with good access to health care and contraception, accurate sex education, and promotion of a rational worldview.
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Old February 26 2013, 07:52 PM   #43
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My plan is less about birth control and more about regulating who should actually be allowed to be a parent. It's like a driver's license; you have to pass a test to get one. There should be a parenting license. If you fail the test, no baby for you!
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Old February 26 2013, 07:54 PM   #44
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A hundred years from now, when all the people of Earth are citizens of the world and participants in a global democracy, historians will remember this as the moment it all began.
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Old February 26 2013, 07:57 PM   #45
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My plan is less about birth control and more about regulating who should actually be allowed to be a parent. It's like a driver's license; you have to pass a test to get one. There should be a parenting license. If you fail the test, no baby for you!
Oh I know -- that was the problem I was alluding to. Unfortunately, parents aren't always the best meter for the quality of the children they produce -- not to mention the inherently fucked eugenics issues, the question of who gets to choose what criteria and why. I give your plan a big ol' YIKES!
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