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Old April 25 2013, 03:54 PM   #196
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Re: How Far Should TOS-R Have Gone?

^^ I read that article quite some time ago. Excellent piece.
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Old April 25 2013, 04:12 PM   #197
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I've mentioned it before, but I would have been fine with a simple cleaning of the film and reissue in HD. Still, I do like what we have, and I think it will make the series accessible to people who would have otherwise passed it over. Bring them in with the pretty shinies; get them to stay with the terrific stories.
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Old April 25 2013, 04:21 PM   #198
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The only TOS-R episode I have is Enterprise Incident (which is one of my faves) simply because it visually makes more sense . I can live with the 60s fx for the other ones. But maybe I'm missing something.
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Old April 25 2013, 04:32 PM   #199
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The only TOS-R episode I have is Enterprise Incident (which is one of my faves) simply because it visually makes more sense . I can live with the 60s fx for the other ones. But maybe I'm missing something.
Well, it's more to do with the technical aspects of things. The special effects were very low resolution compared to the film stock, so when they cleaned and prepped the series for HD, the special effects had to be reshot. In the process, CBS Digital decided to update them for a more modern audience.
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Old April 25 2013, 05:23 PM   #200
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I think TOS-R was just fine as it is. Now what they really need to do is a TAS-R. Full CGI. Get rid of the crappy 70's animation and go all-out.
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Old April 25 2013, 07:37 PM   #201
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There were a lot of things I really liked about TOS-R. There were also a few things I didn't really like about TOS-R. I've got my copies of the remastered episodes to watch when I want to, and I also have my DVD box sets of the originals to watch when I want to. It's all good. Overall, I'm glad the remastering was done - the positives far outweigh the negatives.
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Old April 26 2013, 12:35 AM   #202
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I still have a pile of 2-episode videocassettes, as well as the regular flavor DVDs (and remastered season 2, for a completely selfish reason). So, both versions are out there for true fans (such as anyone that would post about Trek on a message board).

However, for the casual fan, who may be unable to get past the relatively primitive 1960s special effects, the remastered versions takes away an obstacle to their enjoying TOS for the stories, characters, and ideas. They might become ONE OF US. That's good, right?
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Old April 26 2013, 01:08 AM   #203
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I still have some of my CBS clamshell Star Trek VHS tapes. They're old and worn, but I just can't bring myself to get rid of them.
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Old April 26 2013, 06:13 AM   #204
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I've mentioned it before, but I would have been fine with a simple cleaning of the film and reissue in HD.
but you CAN watch it that way on the blu rays. if you turn off the remastered effects on the blu ray you get to watch the original in hd quality. most of the time that's the only way i watch it. that would have been enough to sell me on it alone. but theres nothing wrong with having options.
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Old April 26 2013, 12:36 PM   #205
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I think TOS-R was just fine as it is. Now what they really need to do is a TAS-R. Full CGI. Get rid of the crappy 70's animation and go all-out.
Same here. And, I think that the studio behind ReBoot should do the honors.

But what I'd really like to see is a new animated series, with the same type of realistic (non-Pixar) CGI animation as TAS, as I've said before. Either than, or let's make a new traditional pen and ink cel animated show instead (this Japanese studio's recent adaptation of an American superhero's adventures shows a great direction to go in on that.)

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I still have some of my CBS clamshell Star Trek VHS tapes. They're old and worn, but I just can't bring myself to get rid of them.
What will you do when those don't function anymore?
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Old April 26 2013, 04:33 PM   #206
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I still have some of my CBS clamshell Star Trek VHS tapes. They're old and worn, but I just can't bring myself to get rid of them.
What will you do when those don't function anymore?
I imagine he'll be able to access the original versions on either DVD or Blu-ray. Or buy the series on Ebay or Amazon in either Betamax, VHS or Laserdisc.
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Old April 26 2013, 05:48 PM   #207
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but you CAN watch it that way on the blu rays. if you turn off the remastered effects on the blu ray you get to watch the original in hd quality. most of the time that's the only way i watch it. that would have been enough to sell me on it alone. but theres nothing wrong with having options.
Oh, certainly. I'm just glad to have several options. I rather like the work done on the TOS-R episodes.

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I still have some of my CBS clamshell Star Trek VHS tapes. They're old and worn, but I just can't bring myself to get rid of them.
What will you do when those don't function anymore?
Well, I watch the TOS-R episodes on Netflix, but I can always purchase the DVDs or Blu-Rays of the episodes.

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I imagine he'll be able to access the original versions on either DVD or Blu-ray. Or buy the series on Ebay or Amazon in either Betamax, VHS or Laserdisc.
Yep!
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Old May 1 2013, 01:32 AM   #208
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There were a lot of things I really liked about TOS-R. There were also a few things I didn't really like about TOS-R. I've got my copies of the remastered episodes to watch when I want to, and I also have my DVD box sets of the originals to watch when I want to. It's all good. Overall, I'm glad the remastering was done - the positives far outweigh the negatives.
I agree. I have both the 2004 original DVD's releases, and the 2008 remastered DVD's, and so, depending on what I'm in the mood for, I can see whichever version I want.

That said, there are actually, there were a few things I wish they'd changed that they didn't. Take "The Ultimate Computer", for example. I was disapointed that they didn't change at least one of Bob Wesley's fleet ships into a different starship class. Seeing a TOS-style Reliant, or Orberth, or something might have been interesting.

And, it's not like this is a George Lucas/Star Wars situation, where each change automatically super-ceds it's immediate predecessor, to become the "official version", and everything that came before is ignored.
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Old May 2 2013, 12:29 AM   #209
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I think they hit the balance between "adding new" and being faithful to the original videos. It certainly was a tricky tightrope to walk. Perhaps they erred a bit too much on the side of caution, but I'm still OK with the results. It scratched my itch
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Old May 2 2013, 04:23 PM   #210
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  1. Finally, the big fault of the remastered effects is that they frequently demonstrate that the new effects team didn't understand basic cinematography. Example: the battle sequence in Elaan of Troyius is a complete mess in terms of basic (and I mean Film Composition 101) directional continuity.
This is my biggest complaint too. Another example is the orbital shot of Apollo's hand holding the ship. Crappy composition - your eye doesn't know where to look to get the point of the shot.
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