Star Trek Enterprise: The most "likable" cast? - Page 2

Bahz · February 18 2013, 03:00 AM

BillJ wrote:

Saul wrote:

BillJ wrote:

They were just respecting their own version of the Prime Directive.

Yes, they call it "being an asshole directive."

The same one Picard and Company were practicing in the 24th century.

No. Very different than what Picard and Company were practicing. Vulcans were telling humans not to rush out into space because it is dangerous. That would be considered a violation of the prime directive. Picard and Company would have hid and watched a race meet distruction trying to rush into space.

BillJ · February 18 2013, 03:00 PM

Bahz wrote:

BillJ wrote:

Saul wrote:

Yes, they call it "being an asshole directive."

The same one Picard and Company were practicing in the 24th century.

No. Very different than what Picard and Company were practicing. Vulcans were telling humans not to rush out into space because it is dangerous. That would be considered a violation of the prime directive. Picard and Company would have hid and watched a race meet distruction trying to rush into space.

Which simply isn't true, I point to the TNG season four episode First Contact.

Bahz · February 18 2013, 09:13 PM

BillJ wrote:

Bahz wrote:

BillJ wrote:

The same one Picard and Company were practicing in the 24th century.

No. Very different than what Picard and Company were practicing. Vulcans were telling humans not to rush out into space because it is dangerous. That would be considered a violation of the prime directive. Picard and Company would have hid and watched a race meet distruction trying to rush into space.

Which simply isn't true, I point to the TNG season four episode First Contact.

What is not true?

We know the Vulcans tried to get the humans to avoid rushing out into space because it is a dangerous place. That was pointed out in several first season Enterprise episodes. So that is true.

We know that Picard believed the prime directive held even if it meant extinction of a race. Better to let them die than to interfere with their development. Stupid, but true as evidenced in several TNG episodes.

I'm not sure what you are saying is not true, unless you are talking about your own statement.

BillJ · February 18 2013, 09:42 PM

Bahz wrote:

I'm not sure what you are saying is not true, unless you are talking about your own statement.

This...

Picard and Company would have hid and watched a race meet destruction trying to rush into space.

Simply didn't happen in the episode First Contact.

Jeyl · February 20 2013, 03:41 PM

Infern0 wrote:

In my opinion it is, nobody comes across as a jerk, nobody is offensive.

No. Archer isn't a jerk. He's jerk incarnate. How does a trained diplomat get into a situation like he did in "A Night in Sickbay" when he won't even apologize to a race of aliens he indirectly offended?

Saul · February 20 2013, 04:54 PM

You don't f**k with another man's dog.

Jeyl · February 21 2013, 02:04 PM

Saul wrote:

You don't f**k with another man's dog.

They didn't. Our trained diplomat decided to bring Porthos along on this diplomatic meeting. As a result, Porthos not only pees on their sacred trees which offends the natives but also contracts something that might kill him. All of this would have been avoided if Archer didn't bring his freaking dog.

RandyS · February 21 2013, 10:48 PM

MarsWeeps wrote:

Infern0 wrote:

In my opinion it is, nobody comes

I initially detested Phlox, simply because he reminded me too much of Neelix

So, it wasn't just me then?

Although, I never hated Phlox, or Neelix. In fact, I've never hated a Star Trek character more than Trip. Luxwana Troi came close, but even SHE didn't annoy me simply by being onscreen the way Trip did.

Nx-01fan · February 26 2013, 03:48 PM

Enterprise is the only series in which I loved all of the characters - every other series (for me) had at least one character that grated on me - and that makes Enterprise even more appealing. It also has (in my humble opinion) the best looking cast.

Lady Conqueror · February 27 2013, 01:05 AM

Nx-01fan wrote:

Enterprise is the only series in which I loved all of the characters - every other series (for me) had at least one character that grated on me

Me too

AllStarEntprise · February 27 2013, 05:36 AM

I like the ENT characters. Unlike VOY where i detest half the main crew. I have no problems with any of the ENT characters. Obviously Travis and Hoshi got the shaft when it came to development but they weren't unlikable.

JirinPanthosa · February 27 2013, 05:39 AM

Reed doesn't grate on you? For the first two seasons his only memorable moment is dreaming that he asks T'Pol to call him Stinky, and in season three all he does is be a dick to the marines.

Phlox was annoying as hell in seasons 1 and 2 and just a little gross, but he was good in seasons 3 and 4.

I've had a greater appreciation for Lwaxana Troi since now I skip everything but her DS9 appearances and Menage a Troi.

gblews · February 28 2013, 01:03 AM

I kinda had a hard time with Trip at first -- something about that "twangy" accent and his persponality. I flat out disliked T'Pol in season 1. I started to warm to Trip in season 2 with the episode where the crew went a little bonkers, can't think of the name of it right now. I really started liking T'Pol in season 3 when she finally started to come apart at the seams. She was too perfect in season 1 and was obnoxious about it.

Liked all the rest of the ENT characters.

TNG - Wanted to airlock Riker - that never changed.
DS9 - Wanted to airlock Julian
VOY - Wanted Janeway, Chakotee, and Neelix, gone. I'v since warmed to Janeway some.

teacake · February 28 2013, 08:20 AM

Reed grew on me with each viewing and now he's one of my favorite characters. Very understated and well acted.

RandyS · February 28 2013, 03:12 PM

teacake wrote:

Reed grew on me with each viewing and now he's one of my favorite characters. Very understated and well acted.

Yeah. Reed should have been the third guy in Archer's trio along with T'Pol. A far more approachable and likeable guy than that moron Trip.

February 20 2013, 04:54 PM	#21
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February 26 2013, 03:48 PM	#24
Nx-01fan Ensign Location: Cmdr Tucker's quarters	Re: Star Trek Enterprise: The most "likable" cast? Enterprise is the only series in which I loved all of the characters - every other series (for me) had at least one character that grated on me - and that makes Enterprise even more appealing. It also has (in my humble opinion) the best looking cast.

February 27 2013, 05:36 AM	#26
AllStarEntprise Commander	Re: Star Trek Enterprise: The most "likable" cast? I like the ENT characters. Unlike VOY where i detest half the main crew. I have no problems with any of the ENT characters. Obviously Travis and Hoshi got the shaft when it came to development but they weren't unlikable.

February 27 2013, 05:39 AM	#27
JirinPanthosa Fleet Captain	Re: Star Trek Enterprise: The most "likable" cast? Reed doesn't grate on you? For the first two seasons his only memorable moment is dreaming that he asks T'Pol to call him Stinky, and in season three all he does is be a dick to the marines. Phlox was annoying as hell in seasons 1 and 2 and just a little gross, but he was good in seasons 3 and 4. I've had a greater appreciation for Lwaxana Troi since now I skip everything but her DS9 appearances and Menage a Troi.

February 28 2013, 01:03 AM	#28
gblews Rear Admiral Location: So. Cal.	Re: Star Trek Enterprise: The most "likable" cast? I kinda had a hard time with Trip at first -- something about that "twangy" accent and his persponality. I flat out disliked T'Pol in season 1. I started to warm to Trip in season 2 with the episode where the crew went a little bonkers, can't think of the name of it right now. I really started liking T'Pol in season 3 when she finally started to come apart at the seams. She was too perfect in season 1 and was obnoxious about it. Liked all the rest of the ENT characters. TNG - Wanted to airlock Riker - that never changed. DS9 - Wanted to airlock Julian VOY - Wanted Janeway, Chakotee, and Neelix, gone. I'v since warmed to Janeway some. __________________ Duckman: I'll never forget the last thing my father said to me... Cornfed: "Careful son, I don't think the safety's on"? Duckman: BEFORE THAT!!!

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February 28 2013, 08:20 AM	#29
teacake Admiral Location: Militant Janeway True Path Devotees Compound. With Sehlats.	Re: Star Trek Enterprise: The most "likable" cast? Reed grew on me with each viewing and now he's one of my favorite characters. Very understated and well acted. __________________ Rider: I can't believe you'd kill me for a field of empty holes. J'onn: It's all I have. ■ ■ ■ Janeway does Melbourne