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Old February 9 2013, 05:39 PM   #76
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The thing of it is, were this a complete reboot of the series/franchise, having The Batch be Khan would be fine, because a re-envisioning of a property allows for changes of that nature (remember Starbuck?)

But since the premise here is that everything in the timeline up to Nero's interference remains the same, then changing Khan's ethnic background, not to mention his backstory (if that's what they've done) is just all wrong, IMO.

If he is Khan, I have no doubts that he'll play the role well. But to say that it's the same character as in the Prime Universe is stretching it a bit.
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Old February 9 2013, 05:59 PM   #77
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Other than RoboCop, I don't think I've seen anything else that Peter Weller has been in. And I saw RoboCop a looong time ago so I'm not familair with how he has aged. So I decided (just now) to Google his image. I really think that he is going to be Khan. Pull up side by side pics of Montalban and Weller. Just my .02
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Old February 9 2013, 06:01 PM   #78
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We'll see what we get in May.

Agreed. I greatly suspect that we really won't know just who 'Harrison' really is until then.
What if we never know? What if Harrison just says he is using a pseudo-name but never reveals his true identity?
We never discovered the Joker's true identity in The Dark Knight, why not here?
Is the Joker's true identity important to the story of the Dark Knight? The Joker is what matters not who he was before.
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Old February 9 2013, 06:31 PM   #79
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Other than RoboCop, I don't think I've seen anything else that Peter Weller has been in. And I saw RoboCop a looong time ago so I'm not familair with how he has aged. So I decided (just now) to Google his image. I really think that he is going to be Khan. Pull up side by side pics of Montalban and Weller. Just my .02


That is possible, as Weller's identity has yet to be revealed.
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Old February 9 2013, 07:15 PM   #80
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Other than RoboCop, I don't think I've seen anything else that Peter Weller has been in. And I saw RoboCop a looong time ago so I'm not familair with how he has aged. So I decided (just now) to Google his image. I really think that he is going to be Khan. Pull up side by side pics of Montalban and Weller. Just my .02


That is possible, as Weller's identity has yet to be revealed.
Weller isn't Khan. But I think he is a bad guy who sets the events of the movie in motion.
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Old February 9 2013, 07:19 PM   #81
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Other than RoboCop, I don't think I've seen anything else that Peter Weller has been in. And I saw RoboCop a looong time ago so I'm not familair with how he has aged. So I decided (just now) to Google his image. I really think that he is going to be Khan. Pull up side by side pics of Montalban and Weller. Just my .02
If you're interested, Weller was good as a sleazy cop on DEXTER a few seasons ago. And, of course, he played a racist bad guy on a couple episodes of ENTERPRISE.
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Old February 9 2013, 07:39 PM   #82
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EyalM wrote: View Post
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We'll see what we get in May.

Agreed. I greatly suspect that we really won't know just who 'Harrison' really is until then.
What if we never know? What if Harrison just says he is using a pseudo-name but never reveals his true identity?
We never discovered the Joker's true identity in The Dark Knight, why not here?
In the case of the Joker, as Myk points out, it's not really important to know. The question here is whether it's important to the story that we learn "who Harrison really is".

If it's hinted in some way that "Harrison" is an alias, but it's not actually crucial that we learn for whom, then I'm fine with that bit of information remaining unrevealed at the end of the movie. A story can be more interesting when every last detail isn't explicitly spelled out.
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Old February 9 2013, 08:27 PM   #83
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Re: Entertainment Weekly Star Trek Into Darkness Issue

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Other than RoboCop, I don't think I've seen anything else that Peter Weller has been in. And I saw RoboCop a looong time ago so I'm not familair with how he has aged. So I decided (just now) to Google his image. I really think that he is going to be Khan. Pull up side by side pics of Montalban and Weller. Just my .02
If you're interested, Weller was good as a sleazy cop on DEXTER a few seasons ago. And, of course, he played a racist bad guy on a couple episodes of ENTERPRISE.
He was the bad guy on last week's episode of Hawaii Five-O, and he provides the voice of Batman in The Dark Knight Returns.
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Old February 9 2013, 09:26 PM   #84
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I thought Weller was revealed to be Robert April.
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Old February 9 2013, 09:37 PM   #85
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Nope. More speculation/wishful thinking/etc.
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Old February 9 2013, 09:58 PM   #86
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Thanks. I know he's been in quite a bit of stuff. I just never happened upon any of them myself.
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Old February 9 2013, 11:20 PM   #87
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RoboKhan: "Dead or alive, Old Friend, you're coming with me!"

His prime directive: Do not interfere with alien cultures ... or OCP.
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Old February 10 2013, 12:32 AM   #88
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Thanks. I know he's been in quite a bit of stuff. I just never happened upon any of them myself.

He was also in one of the best episodes of Fringe, entitled 'White Tulip'.
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Old February 10 2013, 12:41 AM   #89
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And starred in Manny Coto's short-lived Odyssey 5.
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Old February 10 2013, 01:14 AM   #90
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And starred in Manny Coto's short-lived Odyssey 5.

Forgot about that one.
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