What were they thinking? AVENGERS style TREK

[The Mirrorball Man]

King Daniel wrote:

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^Red, The Expendables, Expendables 2, The Watchmen, A Good Day to Die Hard...?

Again, I'm mostly talking about big-budget blockbusters, not mid-level action movies.

[CorporalClegg]

RDJ isn't exactly a spring chicken either.

[Konata Izumi]

People seem to miss that a team-up doesn't need to have all the captains, only old actors, etc.

Stewart's a cool dude so he'd fit great. Reintroduce one less-known captain too and it could be a great trio. Or make up a new one. I haven't seen Janeway but I guess it'd have to be a younger her to keep some sort of gender balance, if it's an existing character. They're doing something similar by Uhura taking McCoy's place if you believe that one thread title. Or some other old character can get promoted.

[BillJ]

Konata Izumi wrote:

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People seem to miss that a team-up doesn't need to have all the captains, only old actors, etc.

Stewart's a cool dude so he'd fit great. Reintroduce one less-known captain too and it could be a great trio. Or make up a new one. I haven't seen Janeway but I guess it'd have to be a younger her to keep some sort of gender balance, if it's an existing character. They're doing something similar by Uhura taking McCoy's place if you believe that one thread title. Or some other old character can get promoted.

Let them go. Outside of the novels (an re-runs), the Prime universe and the Modern Trek characters are done.

[Konata Izumi]

BillJ wrote:

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Let them go. Outside of the novels (an re-runs), the Prime universe and the Modern Trek characters are done.

They just resurrected the TOS crew a few years ago and now possibly Khan; all old icons. Is there a reason for such a sharp divide? For kids like me they're all old Trek. Everyone knows the facepalm guy.

They can spin off movies for each of the captains: $$$

[BillJ]

Konata Izumi wrote:

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They just resurrected the TOS crew a few years ago and now possibly Khan; all old icons. Is there a reason for such a sharp divide? For kids like me they're all old Trek. Everyone knows the facepalm guy.

They can spin off movies for each of the captains: $$$

It only makes money if it's done extremely cheap or they get big names to play the characters (like Samuel L. Jackson playing Sisko).

[Konata Izumi]

^Professor X? That random who plays Kirk?

You ignored the question -_-

[BillJ]

Konata Izumi wrote:

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You ignored the question -_-

The reason for the sharp divide?

Kirk, Spock and company resonated with the general public in a way the rest simply didn't. An 'All-Star' captains movie featuring Janeway, Sisko and Archer just wouldn't put enough butts in the seats to matter and Stewart and Shatner are simply too old to be believably put in space suits again.

[anh165]

Konata Izumi wrote:

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^Professor X? That random who plays Kirk?

You ignored the question -_-

There is a massive difference between Kirk and Sisko, the latter is not well recognised outside of the hardcore Star Trek community and the character is principally so dull that someone of screen presence and sharp wit like Samuel L Jackson could allay the risk of using such a character on the big screen.

Chris Pine is a competent actor with quality that suits big screen hero persona, a perfect example for someone to play someone as big as Kirk.

[BillJ]

anh165 wrote:

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There is a massive difference between Kirk and Sisko, the latter is not well recognised outside of the hardcore Star Trek community and the character is principally so dull that someone of screen presence and sharp wit like Samuel L Jackson could allay the risk of using such a character on the big screen.

Chris Pine is a competent actor with quality that suits big screen hero persona, a perfect example for someone to play someone as big as Kirk.

I think many people miss the simple fact that the structure of Star Trek works better on the big screen than the ensemble structures of the spin-offs.

The Original Series always was big space adventure in a weird universe. When we watch Kirk fight the big green lizard, we go "cool". When we watch Picard swinging from a conduit fighting Borg, we go "eh?" that really isn't the character I know from the TV series.

The differences don't make the spin-offs bad, but less suited for a story you have to sell tickets for and tell in two hours or less.

[Konata Izumi]

Maybe Picard needs a new first officer to fight henchmen flooding the bridge while he's speaking authoritarily with the bad guy leader. He can't do everything!

[BillJ]

Konata Izumi wrote:

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Maybe Picard needs a new first officer to fight henchmen flooding the bridge while he's speaking authoritarily with the bad guy leader. He can't do everything!

Like it or not, the captain is the star. It's why we started seeing Stewart become more 'front-and-center' during TNG's run while Frakes role was reduced.

[Konata Izumi]

^Jigsaw just talks in the Saw movies, but talks so fucking well that the machines can do all the killing and he still steals the movies.

[anh165]

I like to see Janeway or Sisko talk 'so fucking well' just once, once would be nice. They had years to do it.

[Squiggy]

What were they thinking?

"Let make a bunch of money."

And they did. Why did they chose that over the other thing that did exist yet? Well, because it didn't exist yet. You're proposing the the worst idea I've ever heard.

And that trailer was so bad it gave me cancer.