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Old March 22 2013, 05:11 PM   #151
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Re: What's with all the Union Jacks in the trailer?

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My money would be on CG all along.
It's amazing how much money is spent doing things in CG which could be done in a much simpler way. Maybe that's why the studios wind up having to shaft FX companies like R&H, because they are just trying to do too many shots in CG.
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Old March 22 2013, 05:21 PM   #152
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It's amazing how much money is spent doing things in CG which could be done in a much simpler way.
The simpler way is much more expensive.
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Old March 22 2013, 05:24 PM   #153
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It's amazing how much money is spent doing things in CG which could be done in a much simpler way.
The simpler way is much more expensive.
Yes, the logistics of filming on location are anything but simple.
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Old March 22 2013, 05:32 PM   #154
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If it was cheaper, then it would still be done. Hollywood's business is to make as much money as possible, not to advance computer graphics for shits and grins.
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Old March 23 2013, 01:38 AM   #155
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So, just what are those airships supposed to be anyway?
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Old March 23 2013, 01:46 AM   #156
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Old March 23 2013, 06:43 AM   #157
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It's amazing how much money is spent doing things in CG which could be done in a much simpler way.
The simpler way is much more expensive.
That's really what it comes down to.

Abrams favors using practical sets and practical effects wherever and whenever possible, but he's also known for spending his time and available budget as efficiently as he can; if CGI is more cost-effective for a particular scene, then CGI is what will be used. While there certainly is a systemic problem in the industry with ruinous demands being made upon effects companies, I don't think Bad Robot are on anyone's list of abusers; Abrams runs tightly-scheduled productions which come in on time and under budget, and the contractors get paid for work performed.
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Old March 23 2013, 09:05 AM   #158
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If it was cheaper, then it would still be done. Hollywood's business is to make as much money as possible, not to advance computer graphics for shits and grins.
No, I think in the age of Avatar they think everything has to be CG. Don't underestimate the fad-factor, here. The studios are NOT Roger Corman frugal.
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No, I think in the age of Avatar they think everything has to be CG.
Based on what?
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Old March 23 2013, 02:11 PM   #160
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If they can create a believable photorealistic scene in a computer that means they do not need to shoot on location then you can bet they choose the cgi cos it's cheaper now !

Majority of the avengers final act in manhattan was shot in some studio with bluescreen and ILM constructed the city in CGI
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Old March 23 2013, 05:46 PM   #161
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Would it be impossible for someone to fly the flag incorrectly IN-UNIVERSE.

Even today, the British aren't so obsessed with their flag as Americans are, and since the Union Flag is nearly symmetrical it's much harder to spot.
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Old March 23 2013, 08:22 PM   #162
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No, I think in the age of Avatar they think everything has to be CG.
Based on what?
Clearly not on reading the post above his.
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Old March 23 2013, 09:07 PM   #163
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Would it be impossible for someone to fly the flag incorrectly IN-UNIVERSE.
The small print along the bottom of each flag says: "If you can read this, the flag is right way up."
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Old March 23 2013, 09:34 PM   #164
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What in canon establishes that nations don't exist on Earth in Kirk's time?
I don't think anything is said about it in Kirk's time. It does kind of go against TNG though, when they're talking about the flag of the former USA, an old nation state, pre-United Earth (in the episode The Royale, I think?)
My money is on states leaving the United States of America, the European Union, the Union of South African Nations, the Arab League, and other such organisations with shabby cotton flags to join United Earth who offered them proper CGI holoflags.
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Old April 1 2013, 12:43 PM   #165
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So what we've learnt is :-

It's called the Union Flag
It's upside down (a sign of distress)
and
Alex Salmond didn't win Scottish Independence in 2014!
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