Finally have time to start watching nuWho!

Klaus · July 8 2011, 01:43 PM

Hey there, I've been avoiding this forum to not get spoiled, but I'm beginning to watch the DW restart at long last. I saw many of the Hartnell-Troughton-Pertwee-T. Baker-Davison eps on US TV back in the late 80s, and really liked them, but didn't have time to watch the 2005 series and as I got behind didn't want to jump in the middle because of my respect for DW and how good I heard it was.

So far I've watched "Rose", "The End of the World", and "The Unquiet Dead"... I'd actually seen most of EotW before. I'd say it's been very impressive so far, living up to my high expectations. Eccleston is a great mix of serious and goofy at this point, and the chemistry w/Rose works for me.

Boy, I hope Eccleston does play Stannis in GoT next season... he'd be great.

And it's so cool to be watching the Doctor again.

Sindatur · July 8 2011, 01:48 PM

Congratulations Klaus, welcome on board. If you get through them all by September, you can join us for the second half of S6 as it airs.

Obiwanshinobi · July 8 2011, 03:29 PM

Godspeed!

Klaus · July 11 2011, 04:20 AM

Just got done watching Aliens of London and WWIII, which were fun and I'm really digging Eccleston's Doctor and Rose's mom. Here's a question -- was this the first time that the effects on a companion's family have been discussed upfront like this? I don't recall it in my previous watchings but they're incomplete I know. I liked the idea, bringing a touch of reality to the situation.

Sindatur · July 11 2011, 04:22 AM

Klaus wrote:

Just got done watching Aliens of London and WWIII, which were fun and I'm really digging Eccleston's Doctor and Rose's mom. Here's a question -- was this the first time that the effects on a companion's family have been discussed upfront like this? I don't recall it in my previous watchings but they're incomplete I know. I liked the idea, bringing a touch of reality to the situation.

A definite characteristic of NuWho is indeed the expanded focus on the companions and their family dynamic

Iamnotspock · July 11 2011, 07:33 AM

Klaus wrote:

Just got done watching Aliens of London and WWIII, which were fun and I'm really digging Eccleston's Doctor and Rose's mom. Here's a question -- was this the first time that the effects on a companion's family have been discussed upfront like this? I don't recall it in my previous watchings but they're incomplete I know. I liked the idea, bringing a touch of reality to the situation.

Yeah, pretty much.

MacLeod · July 11 2011, 08:37 AM

Some of the best episodes have yet to come then, with 'Dalek' and 'The Empty Child" nd the Docotr Dances"

Cutter John · July 11 2011, 10:11 AM

Welcome aboard Klaus! Lookign forward to hearign your thoughts on the show as you watch.

And yes, you ain't seen nothing yet!

Skywalker · July 11 2011, 10:41 AM

Good luck with "Boom Town."

But welcome to the fold! I'm glad you're enjoying the show so far.

Whofan · July 11 2011, 08:54 PM

Companion's families were touched upon in the classic series, but usually they didn't turn out well and are not as developed. Some spoilers for the classic series here, of course, but most of them are well-known so no code (With one exception)

-The first companion family is of course, the Doctor's own. Sort of. Susan was his granddaughter. She turned out OK by the Time of the Five Doctors but might be dead in the new series. The fate of his other relatives is largely left mysterious, except in some books which go into detail but are largely now non-canon.

-Sara Kingdom was the sister of Bret Vyon in the Dalek's masterplan. Both didn't turn out well.

-Victoria Waterfield's father was killed by the Daleks, which sparks one of WHO's best scenes in Tomb of the Cybermen.

-The brigadier had a family, but his first marriage likely ended in divorce.

-Sarah of course has an adopted son but that's the new stuff, in the classic series she at least had an aunt.

-Leela's father was killed, I think.

-Adric's brother died facing off against the Marshmen.

-Nyssa's father and stepmother were both killed by the Master. Her stepmother presumabely got smushed by his TARDIS, while the Master took over Tremas's body.

-The Master shrunk and killed Tegan's aunt Vanessa. Tegan's cousin got captured by Omega, but he turned out OK in the end I think.

-Turlough's father died but he was reunited with his brother in Planet of fire.

-Peri had a stepfather, Howard. As for the rest of her family, one of the audio dramas has her and the Doctor meet the rest of her family..

-Ace's family is brought up a few times, mainly that she has a bad relationship with her mother. In Curse of Fenric she meets her mother as an infant and grandmother, but is not aware of their relationship until pointed out by the villain. She saves the infant and creates a sort of grandfather paradox.

Ar-Pharazon · July 12 2011, 04:03 AM

I gotta ask. What US station showed any Hartnell or Troughton episodes ever.

PBS Chicago had some Pertwee and I'm not sure they even showed his first or second season, but it has been a long time.

I know they never showed the first 2 docs here (in Chicago), outside of The Three Doctors or The Five Doctors or The Two Doctors.

Klaus · July 12 2011, 04:11 AM

I was watching in CT, from the PBS station in Boston... they were showing Tom Baker when I started watching but eventually rolled over and started with Hartnell, much to my delight... this was mid to late 80s. They got all the way to a few Colin Bakers and then stopped. I never saw any McCoy except for him getting machine-gunned to open the McGann movie.

Sindatur · July 12 2011, 04:16 AM

San Jose California Channel 6, 9, and 54 all carried Dr. Who (Though ch 6 and 9 only a single episode a week in the Tom Baker era) , through the 80s and 90s. Tom Baker was #1, but they went forward on Ch 54 as much as they did backward. I believe it went 4, 5, 3, 6, 1, 7, 2. (or maybe the last two were 2,7)?

Ar-Pharazon · July 12 2011, 09:43 AM

You guys are seriously lucky then.

Ch.11 went through 4 a number of times, then finally showed some 3, then more 4, then finally went forward into 5,6,& 7.

Probably why I never had any problem with Hurndall as #1 in The Five Doctors, no point of reference.

Cutter John · July 12 2011, 11:25 AM

The PBS station in Atlanta went through 4 and 5 a couple times in the mid eighties before they picked up 3. Then eventually 6 and 7 all the way through the end. Thankfully it was a big money-maker for the station at the time.

I seem to recall they wanted 1 and 2, but at the time the BBC was charging way too much for the rights.

I beleive they showed all the Doctors here in Seattle in proper serialized form.

July 8 2011, 01:48 PM	#2
Sindatur Rear Admiral Location: Sacramento, CA	Re: Finally have time to start watching nuWho! Congratulations Klaus, welcome on board. If you get through them all by September, you can join us for the second half of S6 as it airs. __________________ One Day I hope to be the Man my Cat thinks I am Where are we going? And why are we in this Handbasket?

July 8 2011, 03:29 PM	#3
Obiwanshinobi Rear Admiral Location: ObiWanShinobi	Re: Finally have time to start watching nuWho! Godspeed!

July 11 2011, 04:20 AM	#4
Klaus Rear Admiral Location: Klaus - Beach condo, Bay of Eldamar	Re: Finally have time to start watching nuWho! Just got done watching Aliens of London and WWIII, which were fun and I'm really digging Eccleston's Doctor and Rose's mom. Here's a question -- was this the first time that the effects on a companion's family have been discussed upfront like this? I don't recall it in my previous watchings but they're incomplete I know. I liked the idea, bringing a touch of reality to the situation. __________________ "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." - Mark Twain http://tlbklaus.deviantart.com

July 11 2011, 08:37 AM	#7
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July 8 2011, 01:43 PM	#1
Klaus Rear Admiral Location: Klaus - Beach condo, Bay of Eldamar	Finally have time to start watching nuWho! Hey there, I've been avoiding this forum to not get spoiled, but I'm beginning to watch the DW restart at long last. I saw many of the Hartnell-Troughton-Pertwee-T. Baker-Davison eps on US TV back in the late 80s, and really liked them, but didn't have time to watch the 2005 series and as I got behind didn't want to jump in the middle because of my respect for DW and how good I heard it was. So far I've watched "Rose", "The End of the World", and "The Unquiet Dead"... I'd actually seen most of EotW before. I'd say it's been very impressive so far, living up to my high expectations. Eccleston is a great mix of serious and goofy at this point, and the chemistry w/Rose works for me. Boy, I hope Eccleston does play Stannis in GoT next season... he'd be great. And it's so cool to be watching the Doctor again. __________________ "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." - Mark Twain http://tlbklaus.deviantart.com

July 11 2011, 10:41 AM	#9
Skywalker Admiral	Re: Finally have time to start watching nuWho! Good luck with "Boom Town." But welcome to the fold! I'm glad you're enjoying the show so far.

July 11 2011, 08:54 PM	#10
Whofan Fleet Captain	Re: Finally have time to start watching nuWho! Companion's families were touched upon in the classic series, but usually they didn't turn out well and are not as developed. Some spoilers for the classic series here, of course, but most of them are well-known so no code (With one exception) -The first companion family is of course, the Doctor's own. Sort of. Susan was his granddaughter. She turned out OK by the Time of the Five Doctors but might be dead in the new series. The fate of his other relatives is largely left mysterious, except in some books which go into detail but are largely now non-canon. -Sara Kingdom was the sister of Bret Vyon in the Dalek's masterplan. Both didn't turn out well. -Victoria Waterfield's father was killed by the Daleks, which sparks one of WHO's best scenes in Tomb of the Cybermen. -The brigadier had a family, but his first marriage likely ended in divorce. -Sarah of course has an adopted son but that's the new stuff, in the classic series she at least had an aunt. -Leela's father was killed, I think. -Adric's brother died facing off against the Marshmen. -Nyssa's father and stepmother were both killed by the Master. Her stepmother presumabely got smushed by his TARDIS, while the Master took over Tremas's body. -The Master shrunk and killed Tegan's aunt Vanessa. Tegan's cousin got captured by Omega, but he turned out OK in the end I think. -Turlough's father died but he was reunited with his brother in Planet of fire. -Peri had a stepfather, Howard. As for the rest of her family, one of the audio dramas has her and the Doctor meet the rest of her family.. However, her mother is killed by Cybermen, -Ace's family is brought up a few times, mainly that she has a bad relationship with her mother. In Curse of Fenric she meets her mother as an infant and grandmother, but is not aware of their relationship until pointed out by the villain. She saves the infant and creates a sort of grandfather paradox.

July 12 2011, 04:03 AM	#11
Ar-Pharazon Admiral of the Rear	Re: Finally have time to start watching nuWho! I gotta ask. What US station showed any Hartnell or Troughton episodes ever. PBS Chicago had some Pertwee and I'm not sure they even showed his first or second season, but it has been a long time. I know they never showed the first 2 docs here (in Chicago), outside of The Three Doctors or The Five Doctors or The Two Doctors.

July 12 2011, 04:11 AM	#12
Klaus Rear Admiral Location: Klaus - Beach condo, Bay of Eldamar	Re: Finally have time to start watching nuWho! I was watching in CT, from the PBS station in Boston... they were showing Tom Baker when I started watching but eventually rolled over and started with Hartnell, much to my delight... this was mid to late 80s. They got all the way to a few Colin Bakers and then stopped. I never saw any McCoy except for him getting machine-gunned to open the McGann movie. __________________ "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." - Mark Twain http://tlbklaus.deviantart.com

July 12 2011, 04:16 AM	#13
Sindatur Rear Admiral Location: Sacramento, CA	Re: Finally have time to start watching nuWho! San Jose California Channel 6, 9, and 54 all carried Dr. Who (Though ch 6 and 9 only a single episode a week in the Tom Baker era) , through the 80s and 90s. Tom Baker was #1, but they went forward on Ch 54 as much as they did backward. I believe it went 4, 5, 3, 6, 1, 7, 2. (or maybe the last two were 2,7)? __________________ One Day I hope to be the Man my Cat thinks I am Where are we going? And why are we in this Handbasket?

July 12 2011, 09:43 AM	#14
Ar-Pharazon Admiral of the Rear	Re: Finally have time to start watching nuWho! You guys are seriously lucky then. Ch.11 went through 4 a number of times, then finally showed some 3, then more 4, then finally went forward into 5,6,& 7. Probably why I never had any problem with Hurndall as #1 in The Five Doctors, no point of reference.

July 12 2011, 11:25 AM	#15
Cutter John Rear Admiral Location: Beyond the wall of sleep, just south of Seattle.	Re: Finally have time to start watching nuWho! The PBS station in Atlanta went through 4 and 5 a couple times in the mid eighties before they picked up 3. Then eventually 6 and 7 all the way through the end. Thankfully it was a big money-maker for the station at the time. I seem to recall they wanted 1 and 2, but at the time the BBC was charging way too much for the rights. I beleive they showed all the Doctors here in Seattle in proper serialized form. __________________ "The way I see it, every life is a pile of good things and bad things. The good things don't always soften the bad things. But vice versa, the bad things don't necessarily spoil the good things or make them unimportant."